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Is this your prediction here?
And wasn't the contract decided on by a judge?
Seriously? You've forgotten about Boeing?
All NLRB has to say is that Hostess didn't negotiate in good faith and get a cease and desist from Justice.
Is this your prediction here?
And wasn't the contract decided on by a judge?
There are a bunch of pissed off teamsters out there. They agreed to the new contract but the bakers union went on strike anyway. I can virtually guarantee you that the unions are talking to the White House right now.
I consider it to be a distinct possibility but I'm not going to argue about it for 5 pages. If you disagree, then fine. Disagree.
Seems it would be less of a possibility with the involvement of a judge in making of the contract, but I just thought I heard that in passing.
Twinkies taste like anyways; 'em.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...labor-dispute/
Half true.
Yet another pebble in the pile.
You might want to bump up your standards of evidence a bit.
I didn't say the cases were identical, and I don't believe a ing thing Jay Carney says.http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...labor-dispute/
Half true.
Yet another pebble in the pile.
You might want to bump up your standards of evidence a bit.
From your article:
And Hostess firing 13,500 union workers instead of agreeing to their demands is exactly why the NLRB may get involved.When the union and Boeing settled their dispute, Solomon said, "this is the outcome we have always preferred." The goal, Solomon said, is to foster negotiations between management and unions that protect workers’ rights. "The parties’ collective bargaining agreement does just that," he said.
I'm going to start using Red Team climate logic on everything.
This is just a natural economic cycle. Companies went out of business before unions thereby the unions could have nothing to do with this. Oh, and black carbon, youtube, etc etc.
I suppose it is possible, but the NLRB rarely gets involved unless there is a bit more clear evidence that something other than normal business cycles is happening.
Next you will be telling me it is happening because of the Pentevorate.
Never fear, Fox is here to keep all its dumb listeners misinformed
Fox Ignores Hostess' Array Of Troubles To Scapegoat Union For Liquidation
Fox News placed the blame for the planned liquidation of Hostess Brands squarely on a labor dispute with one of the company's unions. In fact, Hostess' unions had previously made significant concessions when the company went through a failed bankruptcy, and Hostess had many problems beyond labor costs, including an inability to adjust to changes in consumer tastes, which contributed to its bankruptcy.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201...-scapeg/191440
No Cupcake: Workers Turn Down Bad Deal from Hostess
Workers had several important issues to consider beyond just the prospect of working for less pay and under worse conditions.
First, and most importantly, there was little reason to have much confidence in the current management team. They had done nothing to turn the company around in the three years since the last bankruptcy and there was little reason to believe that they would do any better going forward.
Accepting new concessions would provide no guarantee of job security. In fact, management wanted the unions to agree to the closure of 10-12 plants (of its choosing) as part of a new contract. This means that many of the company’s 18,000 workers would soon have been laid off even if the workers had accepted management’s terms.
Second, management was not shy about rewarding itself in spite of the company’s poor financial condition. The CEO upped his annual pay to $2.25 million and other top executives got raises of 35-80 percent. This doesn’t seem like the behavior of management that puts the survival of the company first.
Third, the financial situation of the pension has to be a top concern for workers. While the pension is guaranteed by the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, the guarantee for multi-employer plans like the one at Hostess is limited. If the plan were to become insolvent then many workers would see large cuts in benefits.
From this standpoint, if Hostess were to continue to put off contributions to the pension and allow it to become badly underfunded, then workers could be looking at sharply reduced pensions in retirement. Workers who are approaching retirement age may view this prospect as a far greater danger than the risk of losing their job at this stage in their career.
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/...=Google+Reader
RT though, how do you go broke selling sugary crap to a nation of fat s?
If only that had put some cheese, bacon, and BBQ sauce on it, the fat s would suck it down.
Bacon!
Hostess needed to batter and deep fry that . Then could come the bacon wrapping. A syrup packet wouldn't have hurt either.
i call it a win for the union. and for the rest of america to boot.
@ unemployed = win
From union wages to wal-mart is hardly a win.
Blame the unions all you want, but that company had been run by some seriously incompetent s for a long time.
From union wages to wal-mart is hardly a win.
I agree that Little Debbie will buy out Hostess and start packaging their goods in Little Debbie boxes with Hostess brand names.
Just don't stop making the Suzy Q. That is a heart attack neatly packaged.
btw, same happened to the entire city of Detroit. 50 dollars an hour for an unskilled worker to apply a rivet. It's capitalism at it's finest though, where the labor supply forms a monopoly. Since monopolies were outlawed in supply chains, it's odd that workers can hold a company hostage. Hostess should change it's name and open back up in Texas where all the demand is anyhow, plus the bean factory puts out tons of workers who work for cheap.
Terrible take, tbh... Hostess is closing shop. This isn't about closing a plant or even firing anybody. NLRB or the Justice Department have nothing to do here.
And no, the Boeing situation has absolutely nothing to do with this. Boeing didn't file for bankruptcy.
Powdered sugar, fake ass Taco Bell cheese and salt. Comes with a pack of cigarettes and a CPAP.
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