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    His ball handling is better even if not exceptionally good.
    His finishing on drives and under the basket has improved.
    His knowledge and thus anticipation on defense has improved.
    His intermediate jumpshot has improved.
    He has more spots around the arc that he can hit the three at. Ie other than the wing and the corner.

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    Danny Green is fine, and he is asked to be a roleplayer. Play good D and knock the open 3 when needed. Manu is the one we should be worried about, since he is playing way worse than Green.

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    Your expectations are way, way too high. If you're expecting role players like Green and Neal to pick up the slack for ageing Hall of Famers then you will always be disappointed. There's a reason these guys bounced around the D-League and Europe, they're decent players but don't ask too much of them.

    This team will only go as far as Tim, Tony and Manu takes them, don't blame the role players for not having superstar games when one of the big 3 doesn't show up.
    You are a little off for the Spurs. We go as far as our role players take us. Take a look at each game we have played this year

    Game 1 Kawhi stepped up for Manu(out) filled out his scoring.
    Game 2 SJax and Green stepped up
    Game 3 Green 21 pts
    Game 4 Bench 57 pts
    Game 5 Entire team failed to show (loss)
    Game 6 Mills 8-9 18 pts
    Game 7 Neal 27 pts
    Game 8 Green 11-5 and 3 steals
    Game 9 Leonard, Splitter and Sjax 39 pts 20 reb
    Game 10 Blair 19-8-3 Green 15 Mills 10
    Game 11 Bonner 10 in 4th Q Splitter 9 pts (loss)
    Game 12 Green Blair and Neal 32 pts SPLITTER 23 pts.

    Looking back on the 1st 12 games, we have a role player or 2 or 3 or even 4 who step up in every game. When our "big three" show up and our "role" players get in the flow, we win.

    The Spurs go as far as the role players take us. The Big Three are a match for any team, but it is our role players who carry us to wins.

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    This. I don't know what games the OP is watching but Green is noticeably better on O this year. As stated above they have him running screen and roll to score inside the arc, which he NEVER did before, and his three point range has increased as well. He was one of the Spurs who shot almost on the line, making it easier for defenders who dig down in the post to recover. Now he's letting go from Bonner/Jack land.
    Good points. Pop has finally realized our role players are too easy to gameplan against in the playoffs and he now has them doing more stuff to keep the defense off balance. This is really going to benefit us in the playoffs. Our role players have to be able to score without relying just on open 3's which happen less in the deep rounds of the playoffs.

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    Finley is available.

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    Green is vastly improved offensively. He's now able to consistently hit open shots, and seems to have a quicker catch and release motion as well.

    The problems Green can run in to are that he gets excited when he makes a few shots, then starts trying to put up turn around shots, off balance shots, or shots off the dribble instead of stick to catch and shoot balls after coming off screens or on kick outs. Everything else is commendable for Green considering he was a reserve player type guy before us.

    As far as Leonard goes. . .the only thing that's really regressed on him is his shot. Though that could just be early-season jitters. His defense has improved to reliable status, and his rebounding is more impressive. Just needs to get in more reps from 3, and get more consistent out there.

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    31 straight games with a 3 fwiw. Longest current streak in league.

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    maverick1948 i like your post above ^^^

    Interestingly enough, and rightfully so, Boris Diaw's name wasn't mentioned. That guy has been invisible at times, not shooting or attacking and generally playing like a friggen pansy out there.

    Boris has been my major disappointment from early in the season. He is too talented and versatile to play like an invisible man. For the year he has averaged 3 FG attempts per game, just 3, the lowest of his career.

    I mean cmon, he's shooting 59% from the field, 38% from 3. Shoot more and attack you fat pussy. He is way too talented to play invisible basketball and shoot 3 times a game.

    Green is averaging more in every category this year then he did last, while shooting slightly less %. He's not doing to bad and playing his role well.

    Somebody has to light a fire up Diaw's ass.

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    The only fire that would light Boris Diaw's ass would have to have a twinkie attached to it.

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    Danny Green looks worse in most respects than last season, but somehow is more clutch.

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    if u dont think danny green has improve, then i dunno what u are watchin out there....

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    Danny is a role player, He's not an all star, that said he's not a slouch either, he's borderline starter quality at shooting guard in what is effectively his second year in the NBA. I would really have liked to have had him a few years ago, so that he could effectively grow for a year or two behind or alternating with Manu, its tougher with him getting time and responsibility due to Manu failing physically.

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    - Leonard has clearly regressed with an increased role..his PER is down by an entire point, he has been considerably less valuable than last year(statistically), his turnovers and offensive fouls have increased dramatically at this rate, and his outside shooting has slightly worsened..

    He's one of my favorite players on the team and I have high hopes for him, though..

    - As for Danny Green, Spurs fans are still delusional about him, similar to last year..statistically, he's virtually the same player as last year, actually worse tbh, his advanced numbers have slightly decreased..

    He still can't dribble and he has absolutely no ability to create his own shot..in fact, he's creating even less than last year, by a large margin, despite already being near the bottom of the list of starters in the NBA..an astonishing number is that 94% of Danny Green's points are assisted, one of the highest numbers I've ever seen for a guard, tbh..

    The Spurs system demands open shots from Green, but he has plenty of chances to score on his own, there's a reason he is unable to produce in those situations..once teams force Green to pass up a shot, he is rendered useless to the offense..

    I like him for his contract and I believe he's a solid 7th man, but I don't believe in him at the moment, especially after last year's choke job..

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    I think Green has improved by default, but whether it's true or not, he will continue to be a lifetime role player. As long as he is willing to take what the Spurs offer him as soon as they put something on the table you are stuck with him filling the two guard minutes that MG cannot fill. I thought his lack of physicality was a bigger contributor to the Spurs exit last year than what his lack of offensive production was.

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    hes improved in the wallet for sure

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    I've always been called a Danny Green hater, I'll admit that from the start, tbh, my opinion is slightly biased..

    However, has he displayed any improvement from last year?..
    No. Besides, for Green, the only way to show improvement is to come through in the WCF and beyond...if the Spurs can get that far. If he doesn't, then he goes down as the player who put the final nail in the coffin for the Duncan era le runs.

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    - Leonard has clearly regressed with an increased role..his PER is down by an entire point, he has been considerably less valuable than last year(statistically), his turnovers and offensive fouls have increased dramatically at this rate, and his outside shooting has slightly worsened..

    He's one of my favorite players on the team and I have high hopes for him, though..

    - As for Danny Green, Spurs fans are still delusional about him, similar to last year..statistically, he's virtually the same player as last year, actually worse tbh, his advanced numbers have slightly decreased..

    He still can't dribble and he has absolutely no ability to create his own shot..in fact, he's creating even less than last year, by a large margin, despite already being near the bottom of the list of starters in the NBA..an astonishing number is that 94% of Danny Green's points are assisted, one of the highest numbers I've ever seen for a guard, tbh..

    The Spurs system demands open shots from Green, but he has plenty of chances to score on his own, there's a reason he is unable to produce in those situations..once teams force Green to pass up a shot, he is rendered useless to the offense..

    I like him for his contract and I believe he's a solid 7th man, but I don't believe in him at the moment, especially after last year's choke job..
    x 10000

    Couldn't have said it better myself.

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    I realize he's streaky and his jump shot will probably get hot soon, but he has been even worse since this thread was created, tbh..

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    Green is hurt apparently.

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    I realize he's streaky and his jump shot will probably get hot soon, but he has been even worse since this thread was created, tbh..

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    he needs to learn how to make love to pressure...fkn

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    Regressed

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    He's a pretty good spot-up jumpshooter. I don't know why people expected anything more. He is what he is and he is pretty good in his niche role.

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    He's a good player as long as he's nowhere near the offense on a fast break. I would have said "nowhere near the BALL on a fast break, but he found a new way to it up without touching the ball.

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