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All those bad grades and we still had a chance to win this one ... with SJax out we will see more of Matt Bonner I guess ...
TP is not very aggressive at this point, it's like he's taking a back seat and the offense feels chaotic overall, it's may partly be by design but him not getting to the line even once seems very wrong. The second half the offense felt much sharper tho, much better execution and I think we only turned it over 4 times against a very good defensive team.
And the bench is not producing half enough, Sjax's D and Manu's scoring are the only bright spots. I think Boris should go roid in Germany tbh.
Overall scary outing, while the Ny game made me hopeful despite the loss, it felt like the team's limitations were really exposed in the one.
How the do Bledsoe and Barnes each get 3 offensive rebounds?
It's a long season but we're not even close to a winning formula at this point.
All those bad grades and we still had a chance to win this one ... with SJax out we will see more of Matt Bonner I guess ...
Thought Tony set the tone on the decision making department. Too much over-dribbling, telegraphed passes and shots that just weren't there.
Boris is sleepwalking and not just this game. On last nights game, when paired with Tiago he of should been the guy cleaning up the rebound as Tiago helped out on guard penatration. The clips ran the same play i think about 4 times with the score. What i didn't get was Boris got rewarded with extra mins in the third while Tiago sat the whole quarter out. On offense Boris is fast becoming liability.
I thought TP did defend Paul pretty good fighting through screens and staying in front of him. But offensively he has to be in attack mode
8-3, but like a couple years ago, 8W vs weak teams (including barely won games), 3 L vs top teams.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 11-20-2012 at 11:00 AM.
I'm trying to be unreasonably optimistic, but I don't know that the wins against OKC and LAL can be considered wins against weak teams, particularly by season's end. At that, there's also a reasonable argument that this team could be 10-1. And, even if that's something that most would reject, "weak" starts are something of a Spurs hallmark and haven't generally portended an inability to compete when it matters.
My biggest take away from the game last night is the proof that even when the officiating in a game is hideously bad (and it was at points last night; Leroy Richardson and Bill Kennedy were abysmal), the Spurs still had a chance to win the game and if they had taken care of the things that they were capable of taking care of, they could have (and should have) won the game. I think it's heartening, in a sense, that the Spurs had a chance at the end against a very, very good team, despite playing horribly in stretches and fighting through some dubious calls. But I also think that the fact that they didn't find a way to get the win in the end, under those cir stances, should provoke more questions about their quality; great teams finish that game and show that they can win under adverse cir stances, whether self-made or imposed by third parties.
have we beatened any teams that are at full strength?? cause it seems like we are just picking easy wins and not being battle tested among the real teams that be appearing in the playoffs...
2 things happened that I had never seen;
#1) Bonner played better than almost all the other spurs and tougher too!
#2) got/flopper Chris Paul dunked.
well this game was near a worst case scenario. losing jax a game after losing kawhi, losing the game, and bonnner making shots in the 4th. so now we're probably going to see bonner get more minutes, AND came away with a loss
Duncan's grades
Out of the last 11 games Duncan has only gotten under a B once.
I would ding Tim more than the OP did for his stupid outlet passes to Blair while he was guarded by Griffin. Also, Manu got a pass for his ty game because it was relative to his injury and his lack of playing time. Gary should get the same. Gary, graded on a Gary scale, should have gotten a C all things considered. Manu was Manu, you can set your watch by his turnovers, you just know he's going to try that pass in a crowded paint area.
Bonner didn't play better than anyone. He hit some shots. Otherwise he passed up a wide open look that would have tied the game, even though he was hot from outside, and decided to put the ball on the floor and drive the paint.
There is too much grading based on the outcome instead of the input. It seems to me that the team philosophy last night was to push the ball as fast as possible, thus the silly outlet passes to basically nobody, the inability to finish in transition by just about anyone, Tim or Blair bring the ball up, Neal handling the ball with an injured finger... too many ty decisions for it to be a coincidence. No way in an outlet to Blair pans out even if he catches that ball, Griffin swats that into the parking lot. Tony ignoring wide open shooters to dribble around and then pass to Tim who's well covered. Tony was back into the "I only trust Tim" mode. When a few shots don't fall, Tony stops passing to anyone other than the other big 2.
Even if the Spurs won, they would have sucked. It wasn't a good game and not because of shots not falling. I couldn't believe the uncharacteristic YMCA style of play in the 1st quarter, so what we got a lead. That was some silly looking , from Jack's transition 3 with no rebounders to the no look behind the back pass to the other team by Tiago. What the . It wasn't about soft, it was about stupid. That's on Pop. He wouldn't take responsibility for that.
There's a huge difference between a guy not producing because he cannot and a guy not producing because he will not. Boris will not, and that can be changed. Cannot is cannot, no changing that.
If Tony can't penetrate into the lane he can't create for no one. He can only hit the midrange jumper if someone sets a really good screen for him. What pisses me off is that fact that Green, Neal, Blair, and Bonner think they are masters at using the floating tear drop. Neal and Green have 3 moves in their repertoire and Bonner as 2.
1. They can shoot the three.
2. Pump fake the 3 drive and throw up a ty floater. In Bonner's case he actually made that shot last night.
3. Pump fake the 3, drive halfway, jump stop, pull up jumper (Which always hit's the front of the rim when Green or Neal are shooting it)
The first sentence is a fair critique but the rest of the paragraph doesn't seem to have anything to do with that statement, tbh. In fact, I struggle to piece together the logic behind the subsequent sentences. The Spurs were trying to play fast as evident by the way they couldn't score in transition and that their backup point guard handled the ball? Errr ... yeah.......
Boris in the first half seemed to be in another world. Boris didn't change that in the third quarter. Whether he can or can't really doesn't matter because it's been happening a lot this season and that wont win you the game. By rewarding that "will not" a ude, you reap what you sow.
Fair assessment. I could have cleaned that up a bit.
They all seemed to be in another world. That slap happy they were doing seemed to be based on the notion that forcing the flow was going to get them there faster. You ever see a group of people who just started playing together try to move the ball faster than they should? It looks pretty choppy. I saw people not sure if they should shoot or pass. It was odd. I was surprised it was as close as it was. If the Clippers weren't so poorly coached, they should have won by 20.
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