Italians are Latinos. Just what I was saying:
If you want to define Latinos as people who use a language that derives from Latin, then yes, Italians are Latinos. That's one way to define it. But the question was, "Is he white." Americans define Latinos as a people native to Latin America. Based on this definition, he is not Latino. It's all semantics.
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so many mexicans are spaniards that makes them white
Many Argentinians are of Italian descent, happy?
No, it's not semantics, it's the meaning of a word getting disorted.
Latino or Latin means one thing and one thing only.
You are right, the word is heavily distorted and has a whole new meaning here in the United States. But that is how words change. For example, in the U.S. we use the word "homely" to refer to an ugly person; however, in the U.K. it means "pleasant". Yeah, I know that we, Americans, screw up the meaning of words and are essentially creating our own language but that is just how it is. We basically define "Latino" as a "brown person".
One person said he is Latino. Based on how we perceive "Latino", I said he was wrong. I shouldn't have assumed that he is using the American meaning but I'm pretty sure he was.
It means Mexican. What's so hard about that?
You can be white and Latino, tbh.
latinos may refer to the people living in south america where most people apart from mexico & caribbean area look just as white as an average american does, if not whiter. some latin american countries are nazi sympathizers and their people are in fact whiter than italians & french people in general tbh
Really, people. What is this, 1970?
Who the CARES?
98% of all Mexicans and Latino's think they are or want to be white...most of the ones I know would deny their heritage in a nano-second if given the opportunity...they really I mean really want to be considered the white man...real bad...
yeah they voted for Obama but that's only because of the Tea Party alternative...it's the same with Arabs...for all intents and purposes they thought they were white for the past 60+ yrs until 911...then when whites turned on them they now want to be down with the black man... is hilarious
Yes, but those two words mean different things. If you want to play the "one true definition" game, Latin used to only mean ancient Romans (from Latium, although I had heard in school that these people were called Latims, but whatever). Latino as a U.S. term refers to people from Mexico, Central- and South America, and for some odd reason Spain. I had heard before that the term is an abbreviation of 'latinoamericano'. By that logic, the way most Americans think of the word Latino is the exact way the word is defined. If there is a divergent meaning that comes from another place, then the word is just polysemous. That doesn't make the American use of the term wrong.
For those keeping score, that means Ginobili is Latin (if you just go ahead and say Latin refers to all people of Italian descent), Latino and White.
From what I see Americans don't use the word Latino to refer to people from Latinoamerica, they use it to refer to people that are "mestizos".
As a racial distinction, you're right that Latino gets messed up by ignorant folks. But I think the extent to which Americans in general don't understand what the word means is overstated. It just stands to reason that mestizos are almost by definition Latinos, and so people feel that can safely refer to them as such. Most Americans don't assume the same with Blacks, Whites and Asians from Latin America. because they have different ideas of where those people come from. That's wrong, but it's no worse than the assumption that every Black person is an American-American. It's not so much an ignorance of the term, I feel, but rather a stereotype about what a person from Latin America looks like.
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Are both of Manus parents pure Italians? Also how did the Ginobilis end up in Argentina ?
If he bricks a 3 pointer then he's white, but if he makes it he's a latino, there I hope this ends the discussion
The real question is :
Does Manu Ginobili know that he is married to Manu Ginobili ?
If having one ancestor that isn't all white makes you not white I'm not sure there are as many whites as informed.
Anyway, I'm sure Manu couldn't care less about what race he is, tbh.
Nah, thats not what I meant tbh. I was just asking those questions out of curiosity.
Based on his skin tone and his last name we can assume that he atleast has Italian blood from his fathers side. Unless his moms side are mestizos than he should be considered white imo.
I can confirm Manu's parents were both born in Argentina... However, either his grandfather or great grandfather was Italian. The reason being that Italy grants citizenship up until the great grandfather ancestry and it's fairly well known Manu has dual citizenship (Argentina & Italian).
manu has one spot on his head that's even whiter than milk though
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