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    timvp - when do you plan gthoughts?

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    Not just injuries. If Pop feels the need for an up tempo game, he'll bring in Patty. I can't imagine De Colo guarding Ty Lawson on the perimeter. Or if De Colo's play starts to deteriorate, he'll switch with him with Mills, like he did Mills with De Colo when Mills started to play bad. Everyone knows Patty's not a passing point guard, so what we expect from him when he's on the court is scoring. When Patty doesn't score, he's pretty much useless. It's the same with a one dimensional player like De Colo. If De Colo can't make great passes, he's pretty much useless.
    Once Leonard and Jackson are back, both DeColo and Mills will be outside of the 10-man rotation, but DeColo will be the 3rd string PG. Patty is the 4th string PG and the 4th string SG.

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    JA was such a better idea than Witherspoon. Glad he did something with his minutes, I'm sure he turned at least a couple of heads.

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    Among the compe ion last night, De Colo was probably the only PG, true. He's looking to pass all the time and can shoot FTs (which I think is a really important skill for the guy with the ball to have). His D was pretty good, but keep in mind the Heat were not playing their A game last night and nobody had a scouting report on our deep bench guys like they have on guys like Duncan, Manu and Parker. So I'd hold off on just handing the backup PG duties over to De Colo until we know how the league adjusts defensively to him.

    And I think Mills is probably just a garbage time all star in the NBA against the best teams. Against the worst teams, he may be able to soak up some more regular season minutes (a la Blair) but he's by no means a rotation player at this point.

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    So I'd hold off on just handing the backup PG duties over to De Colo until we know how the league adjusts defensively to him.
    When everyone is healthy, Neal remains the backup PG.

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    Boris Diaw on LeBron James is a viable option.
    I told you Diaw would be the primary Lebron defender, although Pop helped me out with that by not playing anyone else who could possibly do it except for Anderson (who did a of a job, by the way). I found it interesting that he let Splitter switch onto James when Miami ran the PnR. Lebron didn't really make him pay for it, either. So I guess Pop may trust big men to guard James more than people thought.

    Yeah, but I also thought Blair would spend some time on him, so what the do I know? Although Blair might well have done so if he hadn't been so awful at pretty much everything last night.

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    1. Nando De Colo is a point guard.

    2. Patrick Mills is a 5-foot-11 shooting guard. Great guy. Great teammate. Not a point guard.

    3. James Anderson is useful as a 15th man.

    4. Boris Diaw on LeBron James is a viable option.

    5. Can the Heat defend the paint? I'm not sure they can with Chris Bosh at center and LeBron at power forward.
    Just to add, the Spurs after this game, IMO, have some sure indispensables apart from the Big 3 and some long term assets that they wouldn't want to give up in a trade to address their remaining weakness (athletic defensive minded big). I think Patty Mills and Dejuan Blair's limitations make them prime candidates apart from Bonner as assets in any mid-season trade.

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    I agree about James Anderson. I think he's worth keeping around. I never disliked him even though he didn't produce a ton. He always tried at least. You never got the idea he was slacking off. With guys like that, they will eventually fall into a nice specialized role and be reliable if you keep at it with them.

    He looked good last night too. I really liked the chase down block he got. He displayed pretty nice agility and proved he can hit shots in a big game. Needs to work on things of course, but I wouldn't be upset if he was around as a reserve guy for the next few years.

    I hope we keep him, though I understand letting him play in the D League and getting extra experience so he gets further along faster. Still, even if they do that, I hope they don't cut ties.

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    Ray Allen is going to be an issue if the two teams somehow meet in the Finals. The spurs aren't the best at defending players who move constantly without the ball, outside of maybe TP.
    YEP, and it's been that way since Bruce Bowen! They used to be able to use him to chase guys around.

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    agree with everything except "almost beating the Heat" in the le. Heat were bull ting till last 4 minutes of the game.

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    we learned pop still wont play splitter over 30 minutes even when he doesnt really have the choice not to
    ship his ass out for a draft pick and a 3rd-4th level big and we all win
    spurs get some talent back and get rid of a player they wont play
    the other team gets a 20/10 caliber big

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    agree with everything except "almost beating the Heat" in the le. Heat were bull ting till last 4 minutes of the game.
    This

    IF the Spurs are to meet the Heat in the finals I expect the Spurs to give them a run for their money. The Spurs present match up problems for the Heat. Quick PG, post presence and 3 pt shooting. With that being said, I don't think they could beat the Heat.

    Miami plays great defense (when they want), has a bench full great 3 pt shooters and the best player on the planet. Last year Wade started the season off poorly as well and then came around. I wouldn't write him off and of course Bosh is getting a lot more consistent. Bosh has actually played well this season.

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    This

    IF the Spurs are to meet the Heat in the finals I expect the Spurs to give them a run for their money. The Spurs present match up problems for the Heat. Quick PG, post presence and 3 pt shooting. With that being said, I don't think they could beat the Heat.

    Miami plays great defense (when they want), has a bench full great 3 pt shooters and the best player on the planet. Last year Wade started the season off poorly as well and then came around. I wouldn't write him off and of course Bosh is getting a lot more consistent. Bosh has actually played well this season.
    don't forget about the coaching superiority by the spurs. But let's just face it. It Lebron and Wade actually try and the rest of the team gets on board, nobody is beating the Heat

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    Miami is beatable. I honestly believe the Spurs' best performance is greater than the Heat's best performance. The trouble is getting our best performance at the best time.

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    Miami is beatable. I honestly believe the Spurs' best performance is greater than the Heat's best performance. The trouble is getting our best performance at the best time.
    Having LeBron go for 45/15 or Wade go for 30 while drops 40/18? Spurs wouldn't have a chance in against that. Just wouldn't go down easily and can possibly sneak it out. Doubtful but the chance is there.

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    When everyone is healthy, Neal remains the backup PG.
    I hate that. Neal is a good SG that can fill up the bucket, but he shouldn't be our PG, IMO.

    On a side note, if feels like we have a million shooting guards on our roster and only two true point guards (and one of them is a rookie!).

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    timvp why no mention of cojo's defense .....


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    lebron isnt grabbing 15 board vs the spurs
    even while theyre struggling theyre not as bad as the celtics are on the glass
    and in game 2 vs okc
    durant/westbrook/harden combined for over 90 pts on 50+ shooting and SA still blew them out

    and wade is done
    without his athleticism and his calls he looks worse out there then turnobili

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    Btw. I smell Indy in the Finals this year
    I thought I was upstairs, not in "college sports". wtf?

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    I agree about James Anderson. I think he's worth keeping around. I never disliked him even though he didn't produce a ton. He always tried at least. You never got the idea he was slacking off. With guys like that, they will eventually fall into a nice specialized role and be reliable if you keep at it with them.

    He looked good last night too. I really liked the chase down block he got. He displayed pretty nice agility and proved he can hit shots in a big game. Needs to work on things of course, but I wouldn't be upset if he was around as a reserve guy for the next few years.

    I hope we keep him, though I understand letting him play in the D League and getting extra experience so he gets further along faster. Still, even if they do that, I hope they don't cut ties.
    The other thing is, if they make a trade, his contract could come in handy. If not and they give up one of the depth guards, he could fill their spot. It's not like they couldn't use more depth of size on the wing anyway.

    They probably intend to send him to the Toros, whether they cut him or not. That could have been why they traded Witherspoon.

    As for De Colo, I don't care that he played relatively well up to that point, he had no business finishing the game. That one turnover late, where he had pretty much an uncontested layup, yet inexplicably attempted to pass back to Splitter, was an absolute killer. The instant it happened I knew it was over.

    Anderson should have closed. He's more under control and a more willing and probably better shooter, plus he could have defended James and sparred a gassed Diaw (him and Splitter were done for with about 6 minutes to go) from having to do so.

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    lebron isnt grabbing 15 board vs the spurs
    even while theyre struggling theyre not as bad as the celtics are on the glass
    and in game 2 vs okc
    durant/westbrook/harden combined for over 90 pts on 50+ shooting and SA still blew them out

    and wade is done
    without his athleticism and his calls he looks worse out there then turnobili
    Wade is struggling and still averaging 19 ppg He struggled at the beginning of last season too and that wasn't coming off knee surgery.

    Spurs blew out the Thunder but lost still lost the series. The same team was beat by Miami 4-1. The last two seasons should've taught you not to read too much into the regular season.

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    19 ppg doesnt mean anything when he looks like ass out there
    should i post quotes from all the heat fans saying the same thing
    he cant finish layups anymore and he has no jumpshot
    hes not kobe or jordan where he can develop a postgame
    all he does is throw himself into defenders and look at the refs
    even charles and reggie were calling him out on it during the broadcast
    and game 2 wasnt a reg season game it was a playoff game
    the post i was referring to was saying that the spurs at their best are better then the heat at their best
    and game 2 is the perfect example
    spurs played a well all around game and blew out okc playing at basically their individual best

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    19 ppg doesnt mean anything when he looks like ass out there
    should i post quotes from all the heat fans saying the same thing
    he cant finish layups anymore and he has no jumpshot
    hes not kobe or jordan where he can develop a postgame
    all he does is throw himself into defenders and look at the refs
    even charles and reggie were calling him out on it during the broadcast
    and game 2 wasnt a reg season game it was a playoff game
    the post i was referring to was saying that the spurs at their best are better then the heat at their best
    and game 2 is the perfect example
    spurs played a well all around game and blew out okc playing at basically their individual best
    Your takes are based off what the commentators of one game said?

    Spurs won game 2 then proceeded to lose the next 4...

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    the 2 commentators who happened to be hall of famers and some of the best ever at their position
    i think they have more basketball knowledge then a heat troll on a spurs board
    "What is up with Wade? He's missing so many easy shots. Also this defense is way over helping. We pack the paint for scrubs...."
    "udonis and wades time is over, they are not the same players that they used to be. Is wade playing just because he is wade or because of our stupid a** coach?"
    "Wade flops like a whale on the floor, slow to get back on D then travels "

    should i post more heatfan
    theres a lot more

    and spurs are more equipped then the thunder to take out the heat
    thunder go small and try to matchup with the heat
    they dont have a true defensive anchor like the spurs do
    spurs actually kept the thunder out of the paint and when they got in they shot somewhere in the low 30s
    they just got hot from outside during the last 4 games
    miami on the other hand had something like a 10/50 on shots outside the paint performance by lebron in the finals
    and i dont need to talk about wades broken shot

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    I dunno, the only Spurs players I was constantly nervous watching last night was Nando. I admire his guts, and I believe he can develop into a valuable asset on this team...but the dude looked scared MOST of the game and kept turning the damn ball over. He reminded me of a drunken kung-fu master. Point being, I hope he stops looking scared and turning the ball over before he's allowed to get playoff minutes, since I think Pop might be less afraid to play new guys during the 2013 playoffs. I'm just saying...

    Last night's game was too much fun, Spurs fans should be pleased overall.

    PS: We also learned that any team wanting to beat the Heat needs to have a 10 point lead going into the Final minute. Those dudes are still dangerous, and Battier wasn't even out there.

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