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Hmmmmm? Jefferson!?????I can go for that...Yessss...Yes can do!
West is certainly the bigger name, more polished/safer player, but I don't see him being the piece and to be honest when Tiago is his best, the Tim/Tiago combo has more upside (which Spurs need some gambles, things like that to win it all anyways). For that reason, I agree that Spurs should not do that trade.
Plenty of teams are going to be asking for Splitter in any deal. They know the big 3 is untouchable, so they will go for the next best asset (maybe Kawhi as well) if they are to give up anything of substance. Even though Jack would be really tough to give up as well, Tiago is even more detrimental in that regard.
It will be tough for the Spurs to do a trade with their assets since you have to assume pretty much they have limited talent and 5 untouchables at this point unless it's a no-brainer (Tim, TP, Manu, Kawhi and Tiago). Best hope is a team like UTA can't find much for Millsap and the Spurs can give up just expiring contract (Jax) + first round pick + decent role player (Blair or Neal) or something similar to that.
Hmmmmm? Jefferson!?????I can go for that...Yessss...Yes can do!
I'd also trade Splitter + filler for a monkeyballer like McGee tbh. I'd also trade Danny Green. Both of them reached their ceiling and don't inspire confidence in the playoffs.
Spurs might be able to get Pau Gasol
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as much as i like stephen jackson we would have to trade him to make salaries work
spurs trade jackson+bonner+filler for pau gasol and maybe one scrub like duhon
lakers get depth+3 pt shooting+ floor spacing
they can insert jamison into the starting lineup since he fits the system well and bonner replaces what he does at a league leading 3pt %
spurs get an elite frontcourt
I'd like to see if we can lure West here in the summer through free agency.
If we could get him to sign for around what he is on now, $10m, we could have a front court of Duncan/Splitter West/Diaw. Formidable IMO.
If we sign a bigger name like Millsap to more money we may not have the cap room to resign Tiago.
The Spurs have to keep Duncan / Splitter / Diaw while adding David West.
This trade doesn't even make any sense for Indiana. They just signed Roy Hibbert to a max contract, gave Ian 4m/year and drafted a Center in the 1st round. Why would they want Splitter? ESPN is so dumb and clueless about the Spurs that they say Splitter is a PF, when in fact he is the only BIG from SA that can't play PF at all.
Still, I pass. West is old and I am sure he wants to milk his last big contract after this season. Splitter + Nando is way too much for a rental and in order to keep West SA would have to give him a new fat contract and I don't wanna see another Jefferson-esque contract ever.
I wouldn't even consider trading Splitter for West and unless the Pacers were going to immediately re-route Splitter or shop Hibbert, I don't see how this would make sense for them either.
The only way the Spurs can trade Splitter is if they're getting a solid backup center in return, in addition to an upgrade at starting power forward. Obviously, him alone wouldn't be enough to get both of these things, but those are the assets required for them to part with him.
And yet his PER still remains over 20.
This is going to sound very greedy, but while I would like to add David West, I wouldn't want to do that at the cost of Tiago Splitter. On the Spurs, I'm not entirely sure what role Pop would use him in. Would he start? If so, how much good is he against Howard, Gasol, the other Gasol, or Randolph? Or Blake Griffin? Dirk? The top teams out west have pipe hittin frontcourts. We can't afford to be soft defensively. West would work fine against the Thunder though I guess.
If Pop used him off the bench, that's sort of an expensive 6th man, but I guess our bench would be pretty stacked with Manu, Jackson, AND West coming off it. Then perhaps he could finish out halves with the big 3 and Jackson/Leonard. Still, the defensive matchup problem still rears its head. He's not going to be able to stop any of the top frontcourt players in the west. Timmy can't guard both on the court at the same time.
I have a feeling, if we got West, we'd be giving up more in the post. Especially if we use him to close out games. I don't really think we need his offensive ability that badly.
I agree with the Gortat comments though that some have made. We need someone more like that than David West.
Splitter, Nando, and bonner all for the right to rent DWest??? Gee, what a great deal.
No to West TOO old. No to J McGee. Gortat on the other hand, brings something to the table. I dont think we have to give up much more than Splitter, Bonner and Neal or Anderson. Money works. Phoenix does this because they have lost C Frye indifinately. Bonner is the same stretch 4 that Frye. Splitter is not quite the inside presence as Gortat, but he has good moves and would be playing with Dragic. Neal or Anderson give them scoring. This is the only trade I would go for as nothing else suggested gives us enough return for
Splitter.
Surely we don't want to get smaller
I wouldn't trade Tiago, not if he continues to play like he is doing now.
Like everybody says, we need a big one, we need blocking, and NO, no one can stop D12, unless we get him.
I hope the Spurs do something, they have assets to trade. For what i have seen, a 2 team trade is gonna be difficult.
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Not interested in West at all, but Gortat on the other hand is very intriguing. I wonder if the Suns would be willing to deal him. Scola is also a good friend of his, so it could be a really good fit together.
I haven't watched Gortat play at all this season though. How good has he been in comparison to Splitter this season?
No way in would the Lakers ever trade one of their top 3 players to the Spurs, unless the deal was completely one-sided in their favor.
On the discussion at hand, I would prefer Gortat over any other available big man. As many have stated, he is exactly what the Spurs need. In a perfect world, they'd only have to give up a combo of Neal/Green/Bonner/Blair/Diaw to get him. Since we don't live in a perfect world, I guess I'd be ok with SJax or Tiago being traded for him.
West is a much better player than what's given credit for, he would be a huge addition. He does score from offensive rebounds, his foot work and post up game is excellent and he shoots great too, all the way to the 3pt range. He's average defensively, but he would improve playing for the Spurs.
If a trade doesnt materialize, I hope the Spurs will sign him as FA after this season.
I like Larry Sanders. Realistically, can we get him? I don't think we need to give up too much.
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