Ginobili or Pierce

[DAF86]

Manu gets screwed in most of this players comparisson's because he has always been on a very short leash minutes wise and therefore his stats don't make him justice. The vast majority of NBA fans (so the ignorant ones) laugh when a more knowledgeable NBA fan tells them that Manu is a better BB player than for example Joe Johnson, so imagine the point to where Manu gets screwed because of this.

It's difficult to compare this two because you have to imagine a scenario that hasn't happened (at least season after season), Manu being the main man on an NBA team, all sorts of "what ifs" will inevitably appear (biggest example: Manu's ability to play big minutes game after game), but what I do know is that Manu and Pierce are in the same level of players and I really don't know why people are so loosely saying that Pierce is more talented than Ginobili. Skill wise Manu can pretty much do everything that Pierce does better (shooting, passing, dribbling through people, etc). Pierce may have the physical edge but since when is that considered talent?

[will_spurs]

I understand the Manu love in this thread but I don't understand the Pierce hate... Pierce has been a top notch player for most of his career, and yes logging heavy minutes year after year IS relevant. How many times were the Spurs let down because Manu was injured? I'm not talking about talent here, but when a player isn't on the floor, his talent equals 0.

This being said, I don't like the question in the first place, since these 2 players are very hard to compare, they don't play the same position and their role on a team have been different as well. Looking at things in a vacuum I'd say Pierce is the better player. But on the Spurs I'm glad we had Manu all along. That's the difficult part on these comparisons: Manu has been one of the main cogs in a really well-oiled machine, it's hard to imagine any other player could have replaced him and made the franchise as a whole better. In this sense I wouldn't take anybody over Manu no matter what, as the likelihood the Spurs would have got 3 rings anyway seems quite slim to me (ok, maybe a prime Jordan ) - but I know quite a few Boston fans and they feel the same way about Pierce, it's their guy, they're happy with what he's done and they would never think of swapping him for anybody else.

[JRHernandez88]

Bad comparison, tbh

[Kidd K]

Pippen played the same position as Pierce and arguments could be made for Pierce to be the better player. While Pippen was better defensively, Pierce is better offensively.

Pippen was leagues better than him defensively, and definitely wasn't a slouch on offense. Pippen also has 6 rings as the 2nd best player on his team. Pierce has 1 ring as either the best or 2nd best on his team. Debatable, since KG was arguably the better player.

Arguments could be made, sure. But Pippen's going to be recognized as the better player all time imo. He's done a lot more than Pierce, and practically always been a winner. Pierce has been leading .500 or worse teams for several years until KG and Ray Allen went to Boston as free agents. Bulls were contenders pretty much every year since Pippen's second year.

[dunkman]

Pippen was leagues better than him defensively, and definitely wasn't a slouch on offense. Pippen also has 6 rings as the 2nd best player on his team. Pierce has 1 ring as either the best or 2nd best on his team. Debatable, since KG was arguably the better player.

Arguments could be made, sure. But Pippen's going to be recognized as the better player all time imo. He's done a lot more than Pierce, and practically always been a winner. Pierce has been leading .500 or worse teams for several years until KG and Ray Allen went to Boston as free agents. Bulls were contenders pretty much every year since Pippen's second year.

Pippen would have hard time scoring 20-25 points on only 12-15 shots Pierce style, while Pierce was able to play some great defense like the time he shut down Kobe in the 08 finals.

[hater]

spurs fans

gotta love em

[Greg Oden]

having to compare manu to Pierce now instead of Dirk

[hater]

having to compare manu to Pierce now instead of Dirk

next year it will probably be Steve Blake

[DAF86]

Bolivians