Wasn't he voted All NBA First Defensive Team? Or was it second...?
First of all theres no way Hughes could play a 3 spot.....he'd get abused
Second of all, yeah i dont see him accepting a bench spot, its not like the guy is 33 and on his last attempt to get a ring...
third of all, his defense IS overrated, but i wouldn't say WAY overrated. He still does it. Maybe its arenas ty defense that makes hughes look good by comparison, but if he were a SPUR i know we'd see that boy put people on lock
Hmm...then maybe Spurs should look into him as a potential Bruce Bowen replacement. Trade Rasho and Beno for Hughes...
I was born and raised in South Texas and I have family in Detroit. So that is a lame point to make. I'm sure they are trying to lure him over but I don't see it happening. Anything can happen though.
I thought Hughes was staying with the Wizards?
In case you don't know, guys who are looking for their "money" contract in their prime, who are being talked about with deals starting around 8-9 million, aren't going to play for 4.5 million just so some Pistons fan on a bulletin board can get his rocks off.Pistons fans aren't exxagerating. He had lunch with Joe Dumars. In case you don't know, Joe Dumars is the guy who signs players to play on the Detroit Pistons.
I don't know what's more comical - Pistons fans in this thread thinking Hughes will come off the bench for half his market value, or the Pistons fans in this thread who have no comprehension whatsoever of the collective bargaining agreement, salary cap, and how those two combined impact trades in this league.
I guess that's tampering and Dumars has a big fine coming his way (according to the quite strict terms of the CBA).I guess he had lunch with Dumars (according to am1270 'The Sports Inferno' former Piston beat reporter during '87-'96 Terry Foster)
Who ever said Hughes was going to come off the bench?
And why in the would he have to IF WE DID LIKE I SAID WE WOULD DO and trade RIP away to another team for bench support!
Hughes won't come off the bench in Detroit unless the Pistons can either: (1) convince Hughes to accept a contract paying him far less than the market will bear; or (2) make a sign-and-trade deal for Hughes that allows them to keep Hamilton and Prince and then don't make any other deals.Who ever said Hughes was going to come off the bench?
And why in the would he have to IF WE DID LIKE I SAID WE WOULD DO and trade RIP away to another team for bench support!
MUHMEshow -- you seem to have ignored the numerous posts that explain, in some detail, that the Pistons aren't very likely to get Hughes without giving Washington Rip, Prince, or some other key piece. It's simple salary cap/CBA stuff -- your Pistons don't have the cap space to make Hughes any offer better than the mid-level exception (assuming the Pistons even have that available). Hughes made more than the MLE last season -- he's going to have to agree to a substantial pay cut to sign a contract with the Pistons unless there is some deal to acquire him.
Now, that deal could be some kind of three-way that sends Hughes to Detroit, Hamilton elsewhere, and a third player to D.C., but unless Hughes agrees to the pay cut, or unless the Pistons deal someone else to get Hughes, you're not going to get him without giving up Rip for him directly.
You can't just trade Rip away. Unless you find a third team to get involved in the deal Detroit has to take back Rip's value plus or minus 25% + 100K to make it work.And why in the would he have to IF WE DID LIKE I SAID WE WOULD DO and trade RIP away to another team for bench support!
And no matter how much crack you guys are smoking up there in Detroit I don't see anyone lining up to take some scrubs so the one year removed NBA champs and perennial favorite for the East can go out and get Larry Hughes.
You have a better chance of Darko starting for you next year than that
First Team, which was a complete joke. Hughes led the league in steals, but in no way was a stopper.
Hughes is chillin in detroit just to up his tat count
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Heck, Iverson is a better defensive player than Hughes...
Man, you guys were 12 minutes from repeating as champs and you want to trade your best scorer for a guy who had one good season on a so-so team? Hamilton's a winner and a character guy. If I was a Piston fan I'd want him to retire a Piston. I don't think Larry Hughes would do anything that's a net positive for your team if you lose Rip. Trading Prince for him is nearly as bad.
Basically, the Pistons need to do 2 things:
1) Joe Dumars needs to show up at the doorstep of Mike James on his hands and knees and beg him to comeback so they have some backcourt shooting off the bench
2) The team needs to realize it can't just flip the switch and should play hungry all season. I truly believe this was the main difference between the Pistons and Spurs. The Spurs just wanted it from the beginning. They played their asses off all season and never took nights off.
I think Detroit needs a bit of help with scoring off the bench. But I think perhaps the more pressing issue for Detroit this season was the constant media speculation about Larry Brown. These sort of distractions do not help the team at all. I hope these issues don't resurface next season and we'll see a more consistent Detroit team.
Just to let you all know. The MLE this year will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 Million. This means that if Hughes accepts the MLE, he would get a minor pay raise and have the chance to play for more than 1 ring. Nobody is saying that he is already signed, we are just excited at the possibility.
Where'd you get that info?The MLE this year will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 Million.
Most places have estimated it $5-$5.5M. No one really know though - they haven't done any of the accounting yet.
A former beat reporter should know better than to announce something like that on the radio. If he was having lunch with him, now Dumars can get in trouble for tampering, get fined, and blow the whole deal.I guess he had lunch with Dumars (according to am1270 'The Sports Inferno' former Piston beat reporter during '87-'96 Terry Foster)
Judging from the pundits posts, the CBA is freakin stupid.
Why would he want just a minor raise at his age after the season he had? It's not like the Wizards were a lottery team last season either.he would get a minor pay raise
Just to let you know, most reports have it pegged at 5.1 million.Just to let you all know. The MLE this year will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 Million. This means that if Hughes accepts the MLE, he would get a minor pay raise and have the chance to play for more than 1 ring
This means that if you think Hughes is going to accept a deal, for his big contract of his career, that starts at 5.1 million when someone will probably be offering him one starting upwards of 7 and maybe 8 million you need to put down the crack pipe.
Guys will go for the money when they are in their prime, and worry about rings later.
People take less money to play for contenders all the time, why are you guys being so stubborn? This isn't completely out of possibility. With Pay increases for a 5 year contract, he will still make a nice sum of money. He will also still get a good 25 minutes on this team with the lack of depth.
What was the last ~26 year old unrestricted FA that took fully a third less money to sign an MLE contract with a contender?People take less money to play for contenders all the time, why are you guys being so stubborn?
Forget stubborn, why are you guys being so stupid?People take less money to play for contenders all the time, why are you guys being so stubborn?
Again, this is Larry's contract to cash in on and be set for life, he ain't going to take a pay cut for Detroit. If he wants the ring, he'll play for less when he's like 34-35.
Sure, and neither is the Atlanta Hawks winning the le next year, but the odds are about the same.This isn't completely out of possibility.
With Pay increases for a 5 year contract, he will still make a nice sum of money.
Let's see...
Detroit
5.1 million
5.61 million
6.12 million
6.63 million
7.14 million
7.65 million
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Total contract: 38.25 million
Some other team offering him a contract:
Low End:
7 million
7.7 million
8.4 million
9.1 million
9.8 million
10.5 million
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Total: 52.5 million
High End:
8 million
8.8 million
9.6 million
10.4 million
11.2 million
12 million
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60 million
Yeah, Larry is going to leave anywhere from 13-21 million on the table for you guys.(and that's less than what he could re-sign with Washington for on the low or high side - bigger raises)
Or he could could sign somewhere for a lot more money and have his ego appropriately accomodated by playing 38-40 minutes a game.He will also still get a good 25 minutes on this team with the lack of depth.
Hmm, tough choice.
1270 AM is FULL of RUMORS.........
No way would we trade ANY of our starters...
Perhaps he would want a chance to play w/ a contender.....but I doubt it. He just had a career year. It's his time to get paid. Lots of teams with money will be sure to go after him. Not to mention the Wizards are going to go strong after him aswell. For him to choose to be a bench player and get less minutes and less than his share of the money, would be foolish....IMO. I would love to see him here. He's a stud. But I seriously doubt we will see him in Detroit.
More likely, is:
Jalen who is from the area, and has stated that he'd love to be a Piston.
Houston, who is still very close to Joe D, and Hunter...and his wife is from here. He too has stated the Detroit is his first choice.
Finley, No ties to the area or club, but would be an ideal bench scorer for us
D Jones, who once was a Piston. He's good friends w/ Chauncey. He's a known quan y for us. No guessing games. We know EXACTLY what he would bring us.
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