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You're using plus minus as a tool to support who gets minutes. I was showing you how ridiculous it is. Gary Neal is not a point guard. He's great for instant offense, but he's not ever going to run point effectively, plus minus or null.
Nah, not a plagiarist. Just someone who took my advice.you have a plagiarist, just like LJ!
You're using plus minus as a tool to support who gets minutes. I was showing you how ridiculous it is. Gary Neal is not a point guard. He's great for instant offense, but he's not ever going to run point effectively, plus minus or null.
I was using plus/minus in conjuction with his assist to TO ratio to show how De Colo isn't a very good NBA basketball player right now. Currently, De Colo is averaging 1.8 assists to his 1.3 TO's. That is a horrible assist to Turnover ratio for a pg/sg who's sole purpose is to help generate offense. Nando may one day have the tools to make it in the NBA, but he still needs to develop some sort of consistency and learn how to run the team more efficiently and that's why he's better suited playing for the Toros as opposed to burried on the Spurs bench. He's gaining very little experience with his small underwhelming cameo appearances in garbage time.
It's funny you bring up Neal, because De Colo is a poor man's Gary.
No way is De Colo is a poor mans Gary. De Colo is a play maker and point guard while Gary is a cold-blooded chucker and a shooting guard. I don't understand how he is a poor mans Gary because I'd struggle to find 2 players who are more different on this Spurs roster.
This. Hoops Czar is either a massive troll, or on some really good .
De Colo is a beggar's 'Ason Kidd while Neal is a Jamal Crawford on a rookie minimum contract.
Sounds about right to me.
Assist/TO ratio:
- Nando de Colo: 1.38
- Kyrie Irving: 1.45
- Ricky Rubio: 1.67
Damn, I'd really want none of them on the Spurs...
De Colo is no point guard. At best, he's a backend of the rotation shooting guard like Neal IF he can ever find some consistency with his shot. I find it almost fathomable that a so-called playmaker like Nando displays the exact same Assist to turnover ratio as Neal (1.8/1.3 respectively). Call Neal what you like, but he has established himself as a cold blooded three point shooting specialist. People expect Nando to be the second coming of Manu Ginobili, who can pass, shoot and create for his teammates and I can flat out tell you, that isn't De Colo. Neal has an NBA career because he can shoot, not because of his playmaking ability. De Colo won't survive in this league as a playmaker with an assist to turnover ratio thats slightly above even.
Last edited by Hoops Czar; 01-06-2013 at 07:56 PM.
If De Colo averaged over 23 ppg like Irving and had no shooters to pass to , then I would gladly accept 1.45, but until then...
Nando De Colo has an assist/TO ratio of 1.38.
In Manu Ginobili's first season he has an assist/TO ratio of, wait for it... 1.38. He ended up to be more than a backend rotation shooting guard if my memory serves me correctly.
timvp do you have stats on td vs hero midrange jumpshot %fg? cause it looks like both clowns are hitting them automatic this season....
This season "hero" is 48% from 10-15 and 51% from 16-3pt.
Timmy is 40% from 10-15 and 44% from 16-pt. Lower than I expected...
Manu was more athletically gifted and played with the first and second unit averaging over 20 minutes a game. He wasn't relegated to mop up duties at the end of the game with som cameo 2nd quarter appearances.
edit: Neal has the same assist to turnover ratio as Manu's rookie season and De Colo. I guess that makes him a playmaker.
Yeah buddy!
Why the did you bump this on a game night? I clicked on it when I saw quick grades without taking a closer look, and was confused the out for a couple minutes. Seriously, why the would you bump this?
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ter McGee
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