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From what I read, which is limited to the internet, I don't think so. The reality is (confirmed by the close voting results) that Manu was up there with TD regading candidates.
Is it so hard for you guys to understand how big it would've been for an Argentine to win this award? The voting was so close (6-4 voting results) its pretty obvious the media was going to focus on that.
We've been playing basketball for a long time, timvp, we know its a team sport.
Even our media knows it.
Just wondering if there was any sort of resentment amongst the Argentinian media or people of Tim because he won the MVP and not Manu?
From what I read, which is limited to the internet, I don't think so. The reality is (confirmed by the close voting results) that Manu was up there with TD regading candidates.
I think the point is, nobody ever hears it put that way. That someone "lost" an MVP award. It's not something to be lost. I've never heard that expressed and it sounds a little petty and unsportsman like. And as much as Argentina is probably thrilled with Manu (as we all are), it's just kind of crass and dismissive toward the rest of the team to say things like that. It shows almost no appreciation for the great performances of Bowen, Horry, and the rest of the guys. I honestly think we should get rid of the MVP award altogether.Is it so hard for you guys to understand how big it would've been for an Argentine to win this award? The voting was so close (6-4 voting results) its pretty obvious the media was going to focus on that.
We've been playing basketball for a long time, timvp, we know its a team sport.
Even our media knows it.
awww come on! It is only natural for Argentina to make a big deal - Manu is "theirs" I would be more concerned if they didn't care
NOOO!!! Manu is OURS !!!!awww come on! It is only natural for Argentina to make a big deal - Manu is "theirs" I would be more concerned if they didn't care
NOOO!!! Manu is OURS !!!!
Somebody has some info about timvp, name, age, etc; so I can find out why she hates so much argies. I could get really good data about this girl.
He is a guy. He does not hate us. I think his grandad was Argie.
I saw this article on Yahoo.
come on now. no cyber-stalking and/or iden y exposing. even if you don't like what someone has to say.
WTF? I hate Argentines because I said they should talk about the NBA championship before they talk about Manu "losing" the MVP award? It's a team game. And the way the Argentina national team plays, they should know this better than any other country.
Soy uno de usted. Mi abuelo jugó para la Argentina en la taza del mundo. Apenas no pienso que el mundo gira alrededor de Ginobili
You spanish is not that bad. It's a little rough around the edges.Soy uno de usted. Mi abuelo jugó para la Argentina en la taza del mundo. Apenas no pienso que el mundo gira alrededor de Ginobili
"I am one of you"?? what's that?? I think you're on crack. If your GrandPa is/was argentine then... Did he beat you or something? Did he tickle you ears all the time?Soy uno de usted. Mi abuelo jugó para la Argentina en la taza del mundo. Apenas no pienso que el mundo gira alrededor de Ginobili
I mean, I couldn't find a single sentence from you saying good things about none of Argentina, argentine players, argentine reporters, argentine people... nothing.
So please... just to uncover the mistery of your childhood:
Whats your grandpa's name?
Which team did he play in?
Which years?
Timvp, if you did the same analysis with Team USA it would have been far worst:The US team had like two weeks to practice. And putting Larry Brown in charge of a team of young players is like putting oil in charge of water. Brown is the worst coach in the league at trusting young players.
The Spurs would destroy Argentina, are you kidding?
Parker > Sanchez or Montecchia
Manu = Manu
Bowen > Nocioni
Duncan > Scola
Mohammed and Rasho > Oberto and Wolkowisky
Where are you hoping to have an advantage?
Unlike the US national team, the Spurs have played with each other all year (and some for longer than that).
Please don't lose all your credibility by claiming something so far fetched.
Iverson > Sanchez
Lebron > Manu
Melo > Nocioni
Amare > Scola
Duncan > Oberto
and so on. It's seems you didn't learn the lesson Argentina gave Team USA. It's not about the individuals, it's about the team. Arg squad has been playing together since they were kids. Besides, they all have the same nature as Manu. They are winners who give it all out. The have more heart than 100 Carmelos.
Thank you, that was my point too. Like timvp said, there is a big difference between a "team" and a team that was recently and badly pu together. But talent is talent. Don't mean to bring up the subject again, but I'm happy someone sees my point of view.
And there is also a huge difference between Fiba and NBA officiated matches.
I beleive people still underestimate international level of basketball.
You need to learn how to read English then Jimi. You're always right there after I make a post regarding anything Manu. If I don't say that Manu is the greatest in the world or that Argentina is the best country on the planet, you always start crying like a little girl. Grow up and realize that there is more to basketball than Manu Ginobili and there are more important things in life than making sure Manu is looked upon as a God by every human walking the earth.
That said, I'm a member of the Church of Manu, in case you missed it. Enjoy, mi vato numero uno.
What about your grandpa?
Find me in chat one day and I'll give you the info. I don't want to be hounded by autograph requests here in the forum.
Find me in chat one day and I'll give you the info. I don't want to be hounded by autrograph requests here in the forum.
I love how a few argentinian reporters questions about manu "losing" the mvp award is representative of the entire argentinian media. Get a clue. What if someone oversees read or heard one Bill Walton comment and assumed that represented the entire US media. We would look like complete morons.
All we heard about was how Shaq and TD got screwed out of the MVP this year. Don't say those kind of things never happen.
Timvp, you didn't answer my post or nkdlunch's. I thought it took a bronze medal for America to realize there's more to bball than a tomahawk dunk, but I guess I was wrong.
You need to learn how to read English then Jimi. You're always right there after I make a post regarding anything Manu. If I don't say that Manu is the greatest in the world or that Argentina is the best country on the planet, you always start crying like a little girl. Grow up and realize that there is more to basketball than Manu Ginobili and there are more important things in life than making sure Manu is looked upon as a God by every human walking the earth.
That said, I'm a member of the Church of Manu, in case you missed it. Enjoy, mi vato numero uno.
You people were proven wrong, but still didn't figure it out.
I agree, give the argetine press some slack. First of all compared to US press, they don't know about NBA basketball. It's all new to them. All they know is futbol(soccer) and frankly that's all they care about. But Manu is argentine and they have to report on it, 'cause it's big news and Argentines are proud of Manu.
So those reporters who mentioned "losing" the MVP basically don't know about basketball and don't understand why Tim Duncan more than deserved that trophy over Manu.
Think of it as US media reporting on a US soccer star who shines overseas. They don't like to, but they still have to report on it.
If you're laughing at how Argetine press covers the NBA, you should see how much they laugh when they hear US press talking about soccer.
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