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So is there gonna be a bigger problem with Scola than first thought?
Stein said ~50, article speculates 48. Article says our salary now is 54 million for next yearDon't forget the cap is going up by 7 mil
so MLE + Bird rights for hory our payroll would go up to 60+... NO WAY that's happening, IMO.
So is there gonna be a bigger problem with Scola than first thought?
Horry is and should be the Spurs #1 priority. I hate to agree with Sparky, but without Horry in game 5, we're watching Rasheed strut around with that replica belt all summer.
If we can move Nesterovic's deal, then Scola won't be a problem either. I'd be happy with an Horry-Scola summer. This team doesn't require anything major anyways.
no one is going to take Rasho's contract without sending stuff back. It's not going to be easy to dump Rasho...
can we get a mulligan on the that contract?
If we package Brown and/or Beno, then lots of teams will take his deal.
Plus, Rasho's deal is a bargain compared to other crap out there. He could help an Eastern Conference team out big time. I really don't see much of a problem dealing him.
brown is going to be a base year player and isn't going to sign just so we can package him up to some crappy team... if we ship beno then we don't have a back up PG. We probably can ship rasho, the problem will be for what? and how long...
Moving Rasho doesn't make it any easier to sign Scola this season -- only to keep him long-term perhaps.
That said, Atlanta would probably take him for Diaw and cap space, no questions asked.
the problem isn't the ease of signing scola -- there is no way he wants more than the MLE... the problem is staying under the luxury tax.
there is no way they'd do that. you think they'd give up their dreams of Sam D. for Rasho??? (plus give up Diaw)That said, Atlanta would probably take him for Diaw and cap space, no questions asked.
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They'll have to after Philly re-signs him or matches an offer.you think they'd give up their dreams of Sam D. for Rasho???
man, glad we have a claraviont here so we know what will happen... so they will pass up all the big men and give away a Diaw and cap space for Rasho...They'll have to after Philly re-signs him or matches an offer.
that's weird.. I don't feel better
Restricted free agency makes it a pretty fair bet Dalembert will stay in Philly. Which other centers for Atlanta? For how much? More than Rasho?
And don't act like Diaw is in their plans either -- that was three coaches and four swingman draft choices coaches ago.
It's not like Rasho is going anywhere, so why would you not feel better anyway?
I think the Spurs are fine with Horry so long as they don't try to er with him over the contract. Spurs should make a solid offer at the start of negotiations, something like 2 years at the MLE fully guaranteed. That's a fair offer for him.
Rasho is 28, Eddie Curry and Chandler are younger as is stromile swift. Seattle was exploring trading a pick for Diaw so it's not like he's fodder... Atlanta could get a of a lot more than Rasho for the cap space (you need to re-read the tea leaves).
can you send me a IM about how the stock market is going to do next year and probe pop's mind for a good bottle of wine? thanksIt's not like Rasho is going anywhere,
I'm feeling uncomfortable because I want Scola, Beno, Horry and Devin on the team.
A little off topic maybe: But why are the Spurs so set on keeping Johnson III? I hear they are trying to groom him to become our next Bruce Bowen. However, I can see Devin Brown becoming that guy for us in the future. If Spurs resign Brown, he can work all season long under Bowen. Brown has proven he can be a solid defender and that he can score under pressure. I think Brown would be a great player to have in the future.
MLE sounds too high for Horry... I think he'll get a three year deal starting at 2.5, devin probably starting at ~2, scola ~2.5...
if you want the exact figures you'll have to ask Chump
I don't know if Horry will come back to SA unless they pay him $5 mill.
I'm going to have to agree with you on that one. I would love to see the Spurs resign Brown!
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I really hate to say this.....
But I agree with Walton Buys Me Off , I'd be happy if we got Horry and Scola scored away this summer. that'd make my day.
If we can do that and still have space to fiddle with, My first priority would be D. Brown who I believe we can get for less then 2 mil. at most 1.6mil.... his stock went down after the injury and he;s a homer - he wants to stay.
If you were a free agent, would you want to sign with Atlanta? There isn't much sign that they've started moving in the right direction, and who wants to voluntarily play for (give or take) the worst team in the league?
Sometime in August or September, the opportunity to land a center with an actual pulse is likely to look pretty good to them. Rasho has proven that he can start in this league, he doesn't have a completely insane contract, and he has a good enough basic character that he isn't likely to turn into an at ude problem on a bad team.
Chicago desperately wants Chandler back (and can offer him the most money and match any offers), and out of all the teams in the league that needs centers, only one of them will be able to sign Curry. And at 6'9", Swift is pretty small to sign as a center. If I were a team looking for a center, after Curry signs somewhere, I'd pretty much have to have Rasho on my short list.
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Devin Brown would be great - unless his back injury doesn't allow him to continue playing.
According to scouting reports, LJ III is already very good on defense and seems be recovering from his injury. He needs work on offense, but has been productive thus far for the Spurs.
So what they would do (ideally) is sign them both (Brown won't collect the money he might deserve because of his injury which is a frightening injury that could cripple a career and LJIII is cheap) groom them and see how they do.
I just have faith in the Spurs office - I feel like they wouldn't have kep him around if they didn't see something they didn't like.
The Bulls said they would match any offers for the first two -- there is that pesky restricted free agency again -- and Stro 1) isn't a center and 2) has a very inflated idea of his own worth, which is why he's a free agent in the first place.Rasho is 28, Eddie Curry and Chandler are younger as is stromile swift.Their second rounder? How is that not being fodder?Seattle was exploring trading a pick for Diaw so it's not like he's fodder.That's entirely possible without dumping anyone. Free agency seems to make fans either paranoid or delusional, depending on how they see their team's situation.I'm feeling uncomfortable because I want Scola, Beno, Horry and Devin on the team.
i'll take an order of horry, with a large/mid sized scola. oh also, can i have a 3 wing and a back up point to go?
WOW that's news, so the team said they are going to match so that makes it so. You forgot to tell that to NJ and Denver or Lamar and the Clippers. I checked actually Rasho is 29, with 3 18 year olds on there team that makes alot of sense for Atlanta... once those guys near their prime he'll yodeling in Slovenia.
You watch the draft? Second rounders were are hot comodity this year. Plus that's generally how you start a negotiation... you low ball they counter.
could be possible -- it will take some great GM'ing by RC and the boys. but spurs aren't paying lux. tax so somethings got to give... My hope would be that Rasho get's traded... I don't think people are going to line up to take him like you seem to know...That's entirely possible without dumping anyone. Free agency seems to make fans either paranoid or delusional, depending on how they see their team's situation.
p.s. can you let RC know that Atlanta will do that in a second? My guess is he'd jump at it...
You can let me know what the luxury tax threshold will be for the next three or four seasons then can't you? You have some great predictive skills of your own, don't you?but spurs aren't paying lux. taxNo he won't -- they're in no hurry to give him up, as evidenced by the deals for him which have already been turned down.p.s. can you let RC know that Atlanta will do that in a second? My guess is he'd jump at it.
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