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    ok, i just said it was a popularity contest. (thats all) i personally think parker could be the leading scorer on this spurs team in a few years. but that has nothing to do with whether or not he'll make the all-star game next season.

    with the system being the way it is... the players are voted in by halfway mindless fans... manu might have converted enough of them during the playoffs to get in without the coaches help next year... but parker would probably need that boost next season like manu got this year.

    top 3 things to get parker in the all-star game:

    1. we'd need the best record in the west.
    2. parker would have to be neck and neck with manu in scoring like he was this year / or improve his stats tremendously (assists) from the previous year. (something to make him standout)
    3. manu would have to be voted in by the fans.

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    Whatever lifts yer skirt man. Call it whatever you want but you will NEVER hear me "appologize" for having an opinion.

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    Yeah Parker is such a scrub. Damn him for upping his scoring average in the playoffs.

    On the road in the Finals, Parker averaged 15.7 points on 48% shooting from the field. Duncan averaged 18.7 on 37% from the field. Manu averaged 11.3 points on 35% shooting.

    But yeah, Parker never shows up in big games. That choking little Frenchman disappears when the team needs him on the road in the Finals. Duncan and Manu, on the other hand, never failed to show up on the road in the Finals.

    Just as the stats indicate.

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    Not to justify manu but if you consider that LB adjusted his D to focus more on him after he torched them in the first 2 games, his numbers are not that bad.
    Parker had a decent postseason performance, that's about it.
    I really hope he makes it to the all-star next year if that helps his confidence.

    Yeah Parker is such a scrub. Damn him for upping his scoring average in the playoffs.

    On the road in the Finals, Parker averaged 15.7 points on 48% shooting from the field. Duncan averaged 18.7 on 37% from the field. Manu averaged 11.3 points on 35% shooting.

    But yeah, Parker never shows up in big games. That choking little Frenchman disappears when the team needs him on the road in the Finals. Duncan and Manu, on the other hand, never failed to show up on the road in the Finals.

    Just as the stats indicate.

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    Parker is known as a player who can be shut down easily ever since the Lakers did it to him last year in the playoffs. You know it. I know it. He didn't do anything to break away from that image this year.

    He's known as the player that teams have to radically change their defenses to stop, thus opening up opportunities for other Spurs. Oh no.

    Give it a rest, man.

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    Yeah Parker is such a scrub. Damn him for upping his scoring average in the playoffs.

    On the road in the Finals, Parker averaged 15.7 points on 48% shooting from the field. Duncan averaged 18.7 on 37% from the field. Manu averaged 11.3 points on 35% shooting.

    But yeah, Parker never shows up in big games. That choking little Frenchman disappears when the team needs him on the road in the Finals. Duncan and Manu, on the other hand, never failed to show up on the road in the Finals.

    Just as the stats indicate.
    Those are some mighty fine stats. But it still doesn't take away from the fact that Parker did nothing to break out of his image of being someone who can be stopped when a defense concentrates on him. When Ginobili and Duncan get in a zone, there's nothing a defense can do to stop them. That's what a true "All-Star" can do. Tim and Manu are known as players who can carry the team regardless of the cir stances. Parker is known as a player who can carry a team as long as defenses aren't concentrating on him. Like it or not, that's how he's perceived by everyone but Spurs fans.

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    We lost 2 on the road. It's not about a single player's stats.

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    Again, if a team is focusing on Parker because he is lighting them up then that opens up opportunities for other Spurs. In addition, it's rather difficult for any player to consistently beat a double team on his own.

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    I don't think they will pick 3 players from the same team to play in the All-Star.

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    I don't think they will pick 3 players from the same team to play in the All-Star.
    ... they picked 3 Suns this year

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    He's known as the player that teams have to radically change their defenses to stop...

    It's really not that much of a "radical" change.

    (1) Converge on Parker when he tries to take it to the hole.

    (2) Get physical once you've converged on him.

    (3) watch him fold like a cheap suit.

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    Converge on Parker, thus freeing up other Spurs. Duh. How is Parker being good enough to warrant that attention a bad thing for his game or the team? WTF?

    When did TP stop penentrating in the Finals?

    TP didn't fold when even the Franchise was in Game 4.

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    Converge on Parker, thus freeing up other Spurs. Duh. How is Parker being good enough to warrant that attention a bad thing for his game or the team? WTF?
    You make it sound so simple. He drives, draws the defense, and passes to the open man. Right? Never puts up an ugly shot and never turns the ball over. Never gets rattled or loses his confidence.

    Take off the homer glasses Sparky.

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    You make it sound so simple. He drives, draws the defense, and passes to the open man. Right? Never puts up an ugly shot and never turns the ball over. Never gets rattled or loses his confidence.

    Take off the homer glasses Sparky.
    I have to agree with this. Parker's decision making and court vision are his biggest weaknesses. Just about everytime he got in the lane and they converged on him he RARELY found the open man. He either threw up a bad shot, threw a bad pass or he stopped his dribble and tried to pivot until he traveled. He did this just about every single game and that's not an exaggeration. I came to expect that he would do that every game and he usually didn't disappoint lol. I lost count how many times he would have Ginobili (shooting nearly 50% from 3 point range) or any other Spur shooter wide open and instead of passing the ball he would try to go into a crowd. Honestly it seemed to me everytime Barry, Horry, or Bowen were making an open shot it was either Ginobili or Duncan making the pass. If Parker is going to be one of the better PGs in the league he has to stop with the tunnel vision and start making those passes.

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    come on icecold this hating is getting old really really fast

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    I have to agree with this. Parker's decision making and court vision are his biggest weaknesses. Just about everytime he got in the lane and they converged on him he RARELY found the open man. He either threw up a bad shot, threw a bad pass or he stopped his dribble and tried to pivot until he traveled. He did this just about every single game and that's not an exaggeration. I came to expect that he would do that every game and he usually didn't disappoint lol. I lost count how many times he would have Ginobili (shooting nearly 50% from 3 point range) or any other Spur shooter wide open and instead of passing the ball he would try to go into a crowd. Honestly it seemed to me everytime Barry, Horry, or Bowen were making an open shot it was either Ginobili or Duncan making the pass. If Parker is going to be one of the better PGs in the league he has to stop with the tunnel vision and start making those passes.
    You hit the nail flat on the head. The crazy thing is that only a handfull of us seem to notice it. I literally cringe everytime Parker drives into a wall of defenders because I know that something bad in probably going to happen. Manu was responsible for most of the offensive output in the Finals but somehow Parker is already getting the credit. Ginobili was the main reason the first 2 games were blowouts. Then he gets injured and suddenly we start losing.

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    Keep on hating, hater. I have yet to hear you back up your statements with facts. The only thing I keep hearing you say is that Parker folds up under defensive pressure, well here's a fact for you to think about.

    You say Parker folded last year after Games 1 and 2 of the LA series, after LA adjusted their entire defense to stop his penetrations, correct?
    This year, Detroit adjusted their entire defense to stop Manu's penetrations after Games 1 and 2---and remind me again, how did Manu play in Games 3 and 4. Did he play any better than Parker last year in games 3 and 4 after defenses collapsed on him?

    Difference this year--Manu got a chance to redeem himself in a Game 7 due to Horry saving the Spurs asses in Game 5. Last year, we didn't get that chance.

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    Ginobili was the main reason the first 2 games were blowouts. Then he gets injured and suddenly we start losing.
    Hmmm, I guess you missed the part where Manu went straight on record saying that his "injury" was 100% fine and that he didn't think it would limit his game at all.

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    Also, I am not denying, that Manu was great this post-season, I'd have to be blind not to notice he had a spectacular season. He was great in Game 7 and Games 1 and 2 of the Finals. And I think someone else hit it on the nail when they said that Manu's emergence has overshadowed and down-played Parker's own progress this season.

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    Manu>TP

    end of discussion.


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    who thinks manu has peaked?
    I know other posters here think he has to

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    Hmmm, I guess you missed the part where Manu went straight on record saying that his "injury" was 100% fine and that he didn't think it would limit his game at all.
    Of course that's what he's going to say. Every player in the league downplays their injuries to the press. Especially in the Finals. Otherwise you have panic among the fans and media blowing it out of proportion.

    Have you ever suffered a deep thigh bruise? I have when my Karate instructor kicked me in thigh when I was 17. It hurts like a sunova ! I walked around with a slight limp for 2 days. It felt like I had a permanent charlie horse.

    You can trust me on this one sister. That injury was more of a factor than you know.

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    Manu>TP

    end of discussion.


    15 year olds who think they know Basketball are not allowed to participate in this debate.

    end of discussion.


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    IceColdBrewski hating Parker. That's something even a tousand of rings aren't going to change.

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    who thinks manu has peaked?
    I know other posters here think he has to
    Questions to you, ducks:

    1) Is this what you really think, or do you wish he peaked, 'cause if he gets any better you run out of reasons to bash him?

    2) How important do you think Manu was for the Spurs to win it all this year?

    3) Was he (i) less important, (ii) as important, or (iii) more important than you boy in helping the Spurs win the championship

    4) If Manu has peaked, would you trade him and for whom?

    5) If he has peaked, isn't 21/6/5 good enough for our starting SG?

    6) What's up with you Manu hating?

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