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    In this new CBA climate, I don't see anyone ponying up tax/cap space on a MAX deal for Josh.
    Yeah, he is what he is, unlike Harden or Batum cases last summer.

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    Dude is the quintessentia example of someone who is going to get max dollar this summer when he does not deserve it. Ferry did a good job getting rid of one of those players already and should do what he can to get rid of another. I also think the hawks should stay away from flirting with Dwight.

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    max money should only goto franchise players or players who turn around a team into a contender

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    Not going to happen. Despite his claims to the contrary, Smith IS NOT a max player. We'll see if some team elects to "pony up" that kind of cash to a player who has never led his team to a playoff series win. It certainly will not be the Spurs.
    You're assuming the Spurs would acquire Smith with the intent of securing him long-term.

    I'd see the Spurs acquiring him to be better in the short term and increase their chances of hanging banner #5.

    If all they'd give up is Jackson and pieces that won't factor, I think it would be a worthwhile gamble.

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    Dude is the quintessentia example of someone who is going to get max dollar this summer when he does not deserve it. Ferry did a good job getting rid of one of those players already and should do what he can to get rid of another. I also think the hawks should stay away from flirting with Dwight.
    No. The climate is slowly changing. One of the things that comes into effect this summer to repeat tax scofflaws like the Lakers is that they may no longer take part in either side of a sign and trade after paying the tax for either 3 or 4 consecutive years. That's huge. They've been signing and flipping bad contracts for the better part of the decade to stay in play for the big fish like Howard. They'll have one MLE and minimum contracts to refresh their roster every year. That's it. The only trades they can make are existing contract for existing contract, and most of their contracts are terrible values.

    Teams are going to think more about throwing money at obviously and majorly flawed players like Smith. If they're going to err, it will be on the offensive player side.

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    Josh Smith will never be part of a championship team, tbh..his style of play is too difficult to build around as a top 3 option..he can't shoot, he has no post moves, he can't attack consistently..he's a very good defensive player, but he doesn't fit anywhere offensively..he's an athlete that can be shut down by any playoff defense that focuses on him..

    I acknowledge that he's a very solid passer and he can take advantage of 1 on 1 matchups on the perimeter, but he can't play in a top-tier half-court offense..
    I agree mostly with this. Smith isn't someone who fits in an offensive system; he would stick out like a sore thumb and quickly become a liability in the playoffs. Add in the fact that his athleticism will only decline from here on out and I wouldn't trade for him for what the Hawks want ... much less sign him to a big money multi-year contract.



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    Plus Danny Ferry just had to suspend him for detrimental conduct. By all accounts, he's close to being a bad apple ... if not a full fledged bad apple.

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    Sure in theory. Those considerations didn't stop some clubs from making bad deals this past summer post new CBA. The Nets come to mind. I don't think Ferry wants Smith after this year, and would be content keeping the cap saving this summer as they look to rebuild in the coming years. Frankly, Smiths true value to that team imho is linked to the idea that somehow he is going to help them lure Howard. I know ATL sports fans are some of the flakiest fair weather fans outside if their precious SEC football, but I really hope ferry fights the urge to link those two together in the hopes of filling that perpetually empty arena. They should focus on rebuilding the right way using smith to get picks and prospects, and not blink twice about letting him walk if another team offers him max dollars this summer.

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    Smith will find a stacking team and figure out a way to get in, or end up in Phoenix.

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    Don't worry about the MAX contract.. He's not going to get one..

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    why would the spurs need him, when they have kl and jax who provides more to the team then what he can bring to the table

    he is as inconsistent as whatever is already on the bench, dont need another clown

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    I agree mostly with this. Smith isn't someone who fits in an offensive system; he would stick out like a sore thumb and quickly become a liability in the playoffs. Add in the fact that his athleticism will only decline from here on out and I wouldn't trade for him for what the Hawks want ... much less sign him to a big money multi-year contract.



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    Plus Danny Ferry just had to suspend him for detrimental conduct. By all accounts, he's close to being a bad apple ... if not a full fledged bad apple.
    Like Boris and SJax?

    Lol at people snubbing him because he wouldn't fit the system... His would clearly put us over the top.

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    Don't worry about the MAX contract.. He's not going to get one..
    Spurstalk : Splitter is going to make 10M+ when he can't create anything, even for himself, can't really rebound or defend that well, but not way in someone offers the max to Smith.................

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    why would the spurs need him, when they have kl and jax who provides more to the team then what he can bring to the table

    he is as inconsistent as whatever is already on the bench, dont need another clown
    He basically scored at will vs KY who had no answer for his short hooks.

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    i have master the art of nonsense talkin on this forum, if this is ur way of trying to talk nonsense, u doing a bad job at it

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    Smith is averaging 16.7ppg, 8.5rpg, 4.0apg, and shooting 45% from the floor.

    I don't care if he's a primadonna that won't stick around because he believes he's a max player. I would take that production for five months if all you're giving up is Jackson and his sub-40% shooting plus a player/pick that won't be a factor for this season or next.

    Again, I know it's not likely at all, but people on this site acting like Smith is a scrub are flat out wrong.

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    For all those saying he would sit in the corner and wait for the 3 ball...Josh Smith would play the 4. Big rotation would be Duncan/Splitter and Diaw/Smith

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    Spurstalk : Splitter is going to make 10M+ when he can't create anything, even for himself, can't really rebound or defend that well, but not way in someone offers the max to Smith.................
    People who have followed the NBA for, I don't know, a MONTH, realize that bigs always get overpaid because they are harder to find and develop than mid sized players.

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    Josh Smith shouldnt be put within 500 feet of this basketball team...

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    I've never found Josh Smith appealing.
    Really? He's the Rolls Royce of tweeners. Rebounds wells. Can pot like sized Power forwards, runs the floor well. His jumps hot is ugly as though. I sure you have your reasons though.

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    Smith is averaging 16.7ppg, 8.5rpg, 4.0apg, and shooting 45% from the floor.

    I don't care if he's a primadonna that won't stick around because he believes he's a max player. I would take that production for five months if all you're giving up is Jackson and his sub-40% shooting plus a player/pick that won't be a factor for this season or next.

    Again, I know it's not likely at all, but people on this site acting like Smith is a scrub are flat out wrong.
    His numbers last season, were ridiculous.

    josh smith 18.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.7 bpg. 1.4 spg. 45% FG

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    lol @ this thread

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    Yeaaah I wouldn't even trade Bonner for Josh Smith, and that's saying something. Guys like Mills, Bonner, Green, etc. at least know their role and are team players. Guys like Josh Smith are in it for themselves and don't really care about what happens to the team....

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    Smith is averaging 16.7ppg, 8.5rpg, 4.0apg, and shooting 45% from the floor.

    I don't care if he's a primadonna that won't stick around because he believes he's a max player. I would take that production for five months if all you're giving up is Jackson and his sub-40% shooting plus a player/pick that won't be a factor for this season or next.

    Again, I know it's not likely at all, but people on this site acting like Smith is a scrub are flat out wrong.
    It's not that Smith is a scrub - far from it. Yet, let's not sit here and act as though he's a superstar-level player that can have a consistent affect on playoff games. Again, he's never led Atlanta to one playoff-series victory in his career and for the past several years, he wasn't even their best player until Joe Johnson left. The fact is this guy is not a player with a high BBIQ, despite being a superb defensive player. To expect the Spurs to disrupt their chemistry and take a chance on bringing him in - even for five months - is short-sighted. Even if the Spurs entertained this notion, which they will not, there's just not enough time for him to learn their offense - and let's face it, he's not the most disciplined player in the world. This thought of this potential acquisition has "backfire" written all over it. Spurs are much too smart for that.
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    It's not that Smith is a scrub - far from it. Yet, let's not sit here and act as though he's a superstar-level player that can have a consistent affect on playoff games. Again, he's never led Atlanta to one playoff-series victory in his career and for the past several years, he wasn't even their best player until Joe Johnson left. The fact is this guy is not a player with a high BBIQ, despite being a superb defensive player. To expect the Spurs to disrupt their chemistry and take a chance on bringing him in - even for five months - is short-sighted. Even if the Spurs entertained this notion, which they will not, there's just not enough time for him to learn their offense - and let's face it, he's not the most disciplined player in the world. This thought of this potential acquisition has "backfire" written all over it. Spurs are much too smart for that.
    +1

    Josh Smith would be even a bigger dissappointment on the spurs than Dwight Howard was to the lakers. He would be a malcontent from the word go. There wouldn't be nearly enough touches, shots, and minutes to pad his quota of empty stats.

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    i don't understand why spurs fan want to bring in players like smith or kG those guy clearly does't have the mentality to fit on spurs organisation, those guy have ego larger then themself.

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