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    Just run the PnR with Manu/Tiago
    The fact that Tiago can't shoot for means his big doesn't need to step up that much on the pick. In other words, the big can simply wait out for Manu somewhat back until whoever is guarding Manu catches up. Tiago also gets easily intimidated by shot blockers. Finishing strong around the basket to avoid that is something he's still working on.

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    The Spurs scored 101, 120, 82, 103, 103 & 99 points vs the Thunder in 2012 playoffs.
    Except for 1 game the offense was not the problem, defense was...

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    The fact that Tiago can't shoot for means his big doesn't need to step up that much on the pick. In other words, the big can simply wait out for Manu somewhat back until whoever is guarding Manu catches up. Tiago also gets easily intimidated by shot blockers. Finishing strong around the basket to avoid that is something he's still working on.
    Splitter is top 3 in the NBA finishing around the rim(behind Lebron and Chandler).

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    tiago can shoot the mid range jumper, i believe as well as ibaka. spurs have taken that part of his game away. some say he was playing overseas when he was making those but if he's wide open he should be able to knock em down

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    Splitter is top 3 in the NBA finishing around the rim(behind Lebron and Chandler).
    That's cool, but against shot blockers that weak ass layups he tosses sometimes don't work. He needs to get better at dunking that . He's actually been doing that more often lately.

    Truth be told, Tiago played very little in last year's WCF, mostly because of the hack-a-tiago. And that's something else Tiago should get credit for, he improved his free throw shooting where it shouldn't be an issue this season.

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    kl needs more swag to his game dude looks like hes scared after posterizin someone... the hot shooting dont impress me as much because come playoffs defense gets alot tighter.... a crossover, a spin move somethin... i want him to be pushin to the rime drawing fouls as much as possible

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    If we have lineups with Tony, Manu, Tim AND Tiago the pick and roll will work JUST fine. That way the defense has no idea which guard will initiate the pick and roll or which big will be used. We can go based on matchups. Both Tony and Manu can shoot if the big doesn't hedge. If we can expose Perkins and avoid Sefolosha we should be ok

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    at the end of the day i don't see us beating the thunder in a 7 game series simply because the refs will not allow it. they have such special treatment that its laughable at this point. ibaka and perk can pretty much get away with murder on the defensive end. and on the offensive end well, we know how that goes.

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    kl needs more swag to his game dude looks like hes scared after posterizin someone... the hot shooting dont impress me as much because come playoffs defense gets alot tighter.... a crossover, a spin move somethin... i want him to be pushin to the rime drawing fouls as much as possible
    I agree. He needs to have a counter to aggressive closeouts. He's a pretty good free throw shooter (over 86% this season) so I wouldn't mind him throwing his body out there Manu style and using his length to his advantage. Otherwise he's just a not-as-good version of bruce bowen plus the occasional backdoor cuts

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    The Spurs dont' just run simple pick & rolls, but quite elaborate sets - where there are multiple picks - high/low/even elbow, with more than one big screening sometimes. Its pretty much a large set of motion offense plays, which sees a lot of action beyond the screener and the ball handler. The idea is to keep the motion going before getting the defense make a mistake and create either a mismatch or a high percentage shot.

    So, it won't necessarily be a problem for the Spurs to be over-reliant on the P&R plays. They would only be worried if some of the role players - Green especially - develops a cold streak despite getting very good looks. Then I suppose the Spurs will go Four-Down or hope others can supplant the key scorers and then turn on the defense.

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    PNR only works......when heroes on the team fkn start passing the ball
    Strongly agree.

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    The Spurs scored 101, 120, 82, 103, 103 & 99 points vs the Thunder in 2012 playoffs.
    Except for 1 game the offense was not the problem, defense was...
    I agree with this one ... our defense has improved and we do not have to stop a guy named James Harden ... if everybody is healthy we have better chances to beat the Thunder than last year, but it remains tough because they have the 2nd best player in the league ...

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    The thing that killed the Spurs last year was Sefolosha on Parker. If Parker can't get a clean pass off, the Spurs have problems because they then have to rely on jump shooters, who unfortunately didn't step up.

    Being able (finally) to play Duncan and Splitter together is a big change. With Parker and Manu on the floor at the same time, the Thunder won't have the bodies to deal with it. That lineup will do damage defensively as well. The only real counter to it is Durant going off for 50 points, and if he can do that shooting contested shots, and if Westbrook is mature enough to allow it, then you tip your hat to them.

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    tiago can shoot the mid range jumper, i believe as well as ibaka. spurs have taken that part of his game away. some say he was playing overseas when he was making those but if he's wide open he should be able to knock em down
    Exactly. Hopefully he brings that part of his game back. He doesn't have to take alot. Just enough to keep the defense honest. He's also surprising pretty good at putting the ball on the floor for a bigman. I remember him trying to cross up KG when we played the Celtics. Splitter certainly still has some upside if the Spurs stop viewing him just as unskilled effort and hustle big.

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    The thing that killed the Spurs last year was Sefolosha on Parker. If Parker can't get a clean pass off, the Spurs have problems because they then have to rely on jump shooters, who unfortunately didn't step up.

    Being able (finally) to play Duncan and Splitter together is a big change. With Parker and Manu on the floor at the same time, the Thunder won't have the bodies to deal with it. That lineup will do damage defensively as well. The only real counter to it is Durant going off for 50 points, and if he can do that shooting contested shots, and if Westbrook is mature enough to allow it, then you tip your hat to them.
    It's a little surprising Parker struggled with Sefalosha. He's played pretty good against Marion in the past who's long as well. It seems like Sefalosha has just enough quickness and length to bother Parker. If Parker can't be effective attacking that matchup the Spurs need to figure out a counter. Generally it doesn't make sense to attack a tough defender for most players.

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    The Spurs scored 101, 120, 82, 103, 103 & 99 points vs the Thunder in 2012 playoffs.
    Except for 1 game the offense was not the problem, defense was...
    I got the feeling the Spurs were spending so much effort on offense they didn't have anything left defensively. I think that's why a defense first mentality is so important.

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    i dont give a what parker and gary neal contributes on this team...when these 2 clowns start distributing the ball is when this team starts playing that basketball we all been waiting for, that is spurs championship basketball

    if u guys love regular season champions, playoff fodder basketball, then continue cheering for these 2 heroes....

    tonys can get his anytime he wants, he just needs to calm the fck down and get others involve b4 whatever is his, cause he will get his unless a big defender is on him....

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    This. Against the Lakers OKC had to play Perkins/Ibaka in crunch time to match Gasol/DH, Thunderefs didn't look good with that pair...
    Playing big works

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