Shareef is a very good player, but I dont think that he would fit in with the Spurs team. Also he comes at a bigger expense than Scola and Horry combined. So i Disagree with that trade.
Shareef is an unrestricted free agent, so the Blazers will be lucky to get anything at all for him. Without a sign and trade, Shareef probably just signs for the midlevel somewhere.
There are a couple of non-Spurs sign-and-trade rumors floating around as well.
Make the trade SAR for Rasho. I'd even throw in Scola. Scola could end up being a bust in the nba. SAR is a proven nba worthy starter.
Scola hasn't even played a game in the nba and already many here are expecting him to be a strong starting nba player.
Glenn Robinson a.k.a big dog had career averages of 20 points a game and above, I figure we can get rid of Robinson then sign someone like SAR. I think letting Robinson go will put us under the cap. plus I think SAR wants to win some games and not lose. Robinson was good back then but he is very questionable this time around. The main thing is letting Robinson go to put us under the salary cap in my opinion. We could definitly use some of his 12.1 million salary for us.
Robinson was playing for the minimum, the Spurs would be over the cap anyway. If the Spurs did the sign and trade, they would be without a back-up center and three back up PFs: SAR, Horry and Scola. Portland might actually take Rasho if they weren't gonna end up with anything anyway, but SAR would have to narrow down the list of the teams he would sign for dramatically if they were to choose the Spurs offer (i'm sure they have others to consider). And if SAR would really consider the Spurs that seriously, he would probably be looking at some sort of guarantee that he will get significant playing time. The only way that happens is if Horry or Scola (or both) are not here next year. I definitely prefer the five man rotation as it seems now, with Tim, Horry, Scola, Nazr and Rasho.
Shareef for Jerome Kersey
Shareef for Rasho would be a great trade, Rasho is just wasting the Spurs money riding the bench anyways. I do however have to agree with other people and say that it wouldnt be worth it at the expense of Robert Horry, no one actually comes up bigger than Horry at clutch moments.
As far as rotations go;
center: duncan, nazr, horry
pf: SAR, Scola, Horry
is better than
nazr, rasho, horry
duncan, scola, horry
Which is what it comes down to in terms of minutes.
You may say that Horry and SAR don't fit cap wise, which is another issue; if thats the case, perhaps we are better off with what we have now.
This talk of Horry/Rasho/Scola is ludicrous why would you want to trade any of these guys for a player who HAS NEVER PLAYED IN A SINGLE PLAYOFF GAME, EVER!!!
Granted Scola hasn't either but he does have a gold medal and thats more the SAR can say. i'd rather have Spree. ( I know, I know they don't play the same position, I'm just making my point.) SAR!
Vince + SAR = dynasty.
Vince + SAR = problem
You guys are crazy, well most of you. Shareef is a wonderful talent and is a solid player. He shoots at a high percentage, he rebounds well, hes a big body. Some of you are saying he would be too expensive, the only way he'll make decent money is if we do the sign and trade and deal Rasho. Some of you are saying why would the Blazers want Rasho? Well if Shareef says he doesnt want to come back to Portland, they can lose him without getting anyone in return. So if the Spurs wanna offer Mike Wilks for him and Shareef will only play for SA, Portland has to take the deal or just lose him without getting anything in return. A lot of teams would love to have Rasho at like 6 million.
I ask that because they have much the same player in Pryzbilla.Some of you are saying why would the Blazers want Rasho?Given all that, where would he fit on a team that is planning on splitting minutes between Duncan, Horry and Scola at the 4?Shareef is a wonderful talent and is a solid player. He shoots at a high percentage, he rebounds well, hes a big body.
There is no doubt that SAR would fit in well offensively in SA. My concerns are on the defensive end as well as his size. SAR has always been on the low end when it came to size for a 4 in this league. This is important for the Spurs. TD would have to commit to defending the opposing center on a nightly basis. If you don't project SAR in the starting lineup then how are minutes going to be split between him and Horry? The only way SAR makes sense is if the Spurs lose Horry and he's the primary backup big behind TD and Nazr. Otherwise, there aren't too many minutes available, unless you think that SAR could steal some minutes at the 3.
To me, you could sign a Glenn Robinson or Kukoc or someone for a lot less and who actually better fills one of your few 'needs'.
Then again, to Holt Cat, perhaps you can shave off some savings in the budget by signing SAR to a MLE level contract and shipping out Radoslav...
well rasho sure isnt going to play the 3. if you're going to extend nazr... a guy that you already went with in favor of rasho in the playoffs... then rasho gets cut out of the rotation entirely again (no matter who you bring in)
duncan already plays the 5 for long stretches. so a guy like sars can at least come in and play long 4's, guys like wallace, kg, dirk etc... if big dogg can come in and block 3 shots in 6mins in a playoff game... sars can buy into the "defense first" thing too? anyway, horry's size doesnt get in the way, and he already does that for the spurs.
i would think that sar's would take some scoring pressure off of td, and take horry's mins in the regular season. (at least in the first half of the season) and be another scorer in case td had to sit out any time during the regular season too. (rest or injury) *knock wood*
Sure, but Big Dog was at the 3 spot. Having SAR getting heavy minutes at the 4 would be a step down defensively from what the Spurs have now and that includes Radosoft.
Are you?if you're going to extend nazr.
i agree, but its not like no one was worried about big dog's speed or anything too? or about horry guarding rasheed in the post? i think sars could fill in, and also be another scoring threat off the bench, when someone puts in players like mc"i'vegotmykneeson"d'ice
i'm just saying if they do. its either that or decide to go with a player that they didnt seem to have any confidence in, in the playoffs last year? but maybe it was the injury? who knows?
That's a big if at this point.i'm just saying if they do.
would you?
Depends on the price.would you?
Yes, it would be nice for the Spurs to have some scorers off the bench. I'm of the view that it would be better for that scorer to be at the backup 3 spot and for the 4/5 rotation to be more sound defensively. Horry or SAR makes sense in the 4/5 rotation, not both.
I am not sure if SAR will be a good fit with the Spurs. He is a crafty low post scorer, minimal defense, decent passer and rebounder.
While the Spurs play best with agile shooting big man around Duncan (see Horry vs. Nazr).
A player like Donyell Marshall, or somebody in the Tom Gugliotta ilk will be best (but then, Googs is like 45 years old and retired, but players similar to him).
Raef Lafrantz, Divacs, Brad Miller will all be fits on offense, but I don't see them being quick enough to cover on the defensive end .... well, seems like Marshall is the only one, but then there is no way the Spurs can afford him.
hey i want a backup 3 thats long and fast and doesnt shoot... just defends. and a vet backup point. (either to take over as backup or to have as a 3rd point guard) but the question was how sars would fit. horry doesnt like to play the first half of the season, and besides you'd like to save his legs and not have to do what we did this last year with him maybe? (the same with bowen) cause they're both gonna be a year older.
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