hey, for a poor college student you couldn't beat the 9 dollar tickets at the dome.
People are blasting Piston fan for only showing up 20 at the airport and you acknowledge that for the population, not very many people are interested in the spurs?
Pathetic for that big of a base and the fact that theres only one major franchise.
BTW, bigger arena's are overated. Gotta love squinting at the court at the H.H.H. Metrodome trying to spot who had the ball during the early wolves era.
Yeah, the seats are definitely too small, but the visibility is great all the way to the back wall. I like the 200 level.
It's not a lack of interest at all. San Antonio isn't really that big. It's one of the largest cities, but it's a small overall market because there aren't that many people in the burbs.
As of the 2000 census, SA was only the 38th-largest MSA, putting it in the same ballpark with Fort Lauderdale, Norfolk, VA, and Columbus, OH.
http://ftp.fcc.gov/cgb/NumberPortability/msas.html
But wouldn't that, at least partially, negate the Spurs' homecourt advantage?
"that many people in the burbs."
There's NOBODY living downtown, and if they many aren't in the suburbs, where are the 1+ million San Antonians?
I was under the impression that SA has experienced continuing urban sprawl. I remember when Clark Highschool was in the middle of nowhere.
All the places outside downtown that have been consolidated into the city. In northern cities, it would be pretty common for anything outside 410 to be a suburb outside city limits.
SA has not annexed A LOT of suburbs. The city size in square miles 263sqmi. has been the same since the 1970's. People build within the city limits. Yes the metropolitan area has grown but mostly the city. not like Detroit where everyone moves OUT of the city limits to live in the suburbs.
I totally disagree. San Antonio has been annexing property in the South, NW, and North periodically for the past several years and more plans are in place. Example: Stone Oak was annexed in 1998. Stone Oak is substantial and continues to add people and homes. The Braun Rd, Shanefield Rd area outside of 1604 is bit by bit being annexed by The City of SA.
Check this out. As recently as 2002 in the south and small parts of north and nw for just one year.
http://www.sanantonio.gov/planning/study_areas_2002.pdf
http://www.bexar.org/community/Plan2...p_Appendix.pdf
Here is a plan for Bexar County through 2009. Map 14 on page 18 shows City of SA annexation of Bexar County land 2000 through 2005.
A quote:
"In 2003, the city of San Antonio began annexation that may increase the size of the city by 64,027 acres and reduces the total number of acres in Bexar County to 476,236 acres."
The Alamodome sucked ass for basketball. I'd never pay a dime to watch a playoff game there. Plus, can you imagine the indignation of season ticketholders who have seats feet from the action being pushed back tens of yards, with bad sightlines to boot.
If you want playoff tickets, you can get them, guaranteed, if you buy a ten game pack. Beats the out of wishing for an old, outdated barn with more seats.
We agree.
Sincerely,
The 400,000 people who showed up for the Spurs championship parade and Dome celebration AND the 5,000 people who were at the airport after Game 5 of the Finals.
What would T'Pup fan know about meeting winning teams at the airport?
Me too, and those steps are not that steep. At Toronto's Rogers Centre (aka Skydome), you almost literally need rock climbing equipment and an oxygen tank when you got to the 500 level. (Go Raptors!)
WTF are you talking about?
Supply and demand as in if the supply is limited, the demand will increase and so can the ticket prices. The Spurs led the league in attendance when they were in the Alamodome.
Nice attempt at spinning my words.
Your words were "supply and demand"
That's it.
Nice attempt of being an ass after you state three words and then say, i meant it the other way.
Meant it the other way? The phrase is supply and demand. You wanted me to say demand and supply?
With the smaller arena, the supply isn't as great which upped the demand for season tickets and also increased the money the Spurs could charge for the tickets. That means more $$$ for Holt and the Spurs.
The one thing people can't bash San Antonio about is fans that will come out and watch the team ... as was evident in the Alamodome.
P.S.
Was never trying to be an ass. What's up with Ndudi Ebi? Any chance of trading him to the Spurs?
My point is that with the population san antonio has and the fact theres only one game in town, all your small market stuff doesn't fly.
Theres a reason why everyone in towns under a 500 pop. are at a fish fry every friday night. It doesn't mean there bigger supporters of fish than a Kansas City or a Memphis. There ain't as much to do.
As for Ebi, it doesn't sound good. I don't know much about the Howard Pulley tournaments but apparently he's stinking it up. At one point he just walked off the court and took his jersey off and left i guess.
I remember one article last season about a writer from up north came down to wretched SA to watch his team play the Spurs. It was a Wed night, his team was kinda crappy/insignificant, but SBC was at capacity. He was amazed how the fans, including kids and babies on school/work night, turned out in those cir stances.
The simple truth is that NBA teams best guarantee their revenue streams by two things: (1) high priced lower-level seats and luxury boxes; and (2) a high percentage of season tickets in the building.
One issue the Spurs faced at the Alamodome was the fact that tickets were so readily available that there was little incentive for many to buy season tickets. Because the Spurs were good, they could sell lots of single-game tickets to games against good opponents (and games on preferrable occasions like weekends and holidays). But the Spurs wanted the assurance of season ticket revenue to make their business work. As timvp notes, the best way to get people to buy season tickets is to reduce the number of tickets, create scarcity, and put a premium on securing tickets early.
I don't know what the exact numbers are, but I recall reading somewhere that the Spurs, by moving to SBC Center, actually increased the sheer number of season tickets sold. At the same time, they managed to gain substantial revenue by incorporating desireable luxury boxes and courtside seating. In that sense, moving to the SBC Center was a great move for the franchise.
San Antonio has one of the largest Downtown populations in the ountry. The largest in Texas. Over 25,000 downtown residents. Also, housing construction in downtown is at an all time high.
A 32 story condo tower is being built downtown. Just one of the many things going on.
The land on the south side was annexed so many of the things that are going on could happen.
The city needs to own that land, not Bexar, iin order for Toyota and A&M to happen.
When that southside land was annexed, it gave the city about 400 people. All that land is is rural farming and ranch. Nothing more. That's all about to change though.
And the small piece of land annexed in far northwest Bexar is for expansion of a wild life rescue.
When the city annexed all that southside land, this is the majority (98%) of the population they took in.
Yeah, that little neighborhood.
The seats are too small and the concessions are highway robbery...
...but that's what I get for being a big Scandinavian guy in SA...
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