NBA: Official MVP Race

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That doesn't make any sense. It actually helps my point. People share your logic, then when the Spurs ball out the act like the Spurs are stacked and are just doing what they should be doing.

All the Spurs have been doing is exactly what the Suns did from 04-09. Lots of regular season wins, but getting nowhere in the playoffs.

Very few people outside of Spurs fans think they have a legit shot to beat OKC or Miami, despite all these wins, just like very few people outside of the Suns fans thought they had a legit shot to beat teams like SA, Detroit, Miami, and Dallas during their run of all those 50-60+ win seasons.

[TheRealCB]

How can you people say that Durant deserves it more than Paul?

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How can you people say that Durant deserves it more than Paul?

Probably because his team has a better record, and he is a better player than Paul.

[Bill_Brasky]

LeBron

[jjktkk]

Point guards

Steve Nash

[skmblz]

100% LeBron

his numbers are crazy tbqh... the only thing he could improve would be his FT%... another member of the elite 50-40-90 club then

[TheRealCB]

Probably because his team has a better record, and he is a better player than Paul.

His team may have a better record,but Durant is certainly not a better player than Paul.Plus,you take Durant out of the Thunder and they are an average team.You take Paul out and clips are lottery-bound.That has to count for something.

[jjktkk]

Really? Because last I checked, its been about 6 years since the Spurs won anything legit, and that was when they had Manu and Tony in their primes together, and Timmy just as he started to begin the downside of his career.

So if your basing tp's chances off this, how do you have cp3 in the mvp race? What exactly has cp3 won?

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His team may have a better record,but Durant is certainly not a better player than Paul.Plus,you take Durant out of the Thunder and they are an average team.You take Paul out and clips are lottery-bound.That has to count for something.

Jamal Crawford
Eric Bledsoe
Caron Butler
Blake Griffin
DeAndre Jordan

Chauncey Billups
Willie Green
Matt Barnes
Lamar Odom
Ryan Hollins

Looks like more than a lottery team to me. That is a solid team and a solid bench.

[Cry Havoc]

All the Spurs have been doing is exactly what the Suns did from 04-09. Lots of regular season wins, but getting nowhere in the playoffs.

Did I miss something? When did the Thunder win the championship?

Very few people outside of Spurs fans think they have a legit shot to beat OKC or Miami, despite all these wins, just like very few people outside of the Suns fans thought they had a legit shot to beat teams like SA, Detroit, Miami, and Dallas during their run of all those 50-60+ win seasons.

Those people are idiotic. Last year's WCF was incredibly close, and OKC doesn't have their 2nd or 3rd best player anymore. As constructed, the Spurs could very well knock them out this year. SAS is MUCH better with Tiago's emergence, Kawhi coming on strong, and the bench getting more settled.

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So if your basing tp's chances off this, how do you have cp3 in the mvp race? What exactly has cp3 won?

That actually has absolutely nothing to do with TP being in the MVP race at all. Try reading, instead of being ignorant.

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Those people are idiotic. Last year's WCF was incredibly close, and OKC doesn't have their 2nd or 3rd best player anymore. As constructed, the Spurs could very well knock them out this year. SAS is MUCH better with Tiago's emergence, Kawhi coming on strong, and the bench getting more settled.

One could argue that Martin somehow fits this team better. His ability to play off the ball better than Harden definitely helps Durant and Westbrook.

What hurts about Harden's departure is when the team pulls both Durant and Westbrook out of the game, they have nothing now. But they should never have both of them out of the game at any point except in the case of a blowout.

In the long run, not having Harden is going to be a mistake, but for this year alone, they really aren't missing much, and arguments could be made they are superior right now. Martin is playing lights out and looks incredibly comfortable, much more than I (and most) expected him to be.

[jjktkk]

That actually has absolutely nothing to do with TP being in the MVP race at all. Try reading, instead of being ignorant.

Not trying to be ignorant. My bad. Thought you were dismissing tp as a mvp candidate.

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Not trying to be ignorant. My bad. Thought you were dismissing tp as a mvp candidate.

I don't think he is a legit MVP candidate. But that statement had nothing to do with him and his candidacy.

[jjktkk]

Did I miss something? When did the Thunder win the championship?



Those people are idiotic. Last year's WCF was incredibly close, and OKC doesn't have their 2nd or 3rd best player anymore. As constructed, the Spurs could very well knock them out this year. SAS is MUCH better with Tiago's emergence, Kawhi coming on strong, and the bench getting more settled.

This and the Spurs being better, overall, defensively.

[Brunodf]

One could argue that Martin somehow fits this team better. His ability to play off the ball better than Harden definitely helps Durant and Westbrook.

What hurts about Harden's departure is when the team pulls both Durant and Westbrook out of the game, they have nothing now. But they should never have both of them out of the game at any point except in the case of a blowout.

In the long run, not having Harden is going to be a mistake, but for this year alone, they really aren't missing much, and arguments could be made they are superior right now. Martin is playing lights out and looks incredibly comfortable, much more than I (and most) expected him to be.

Did u watch OKC in the playoffs? Westbrick disappeared, Harden was their man in crunch time.
Thunder is better without Harden.

Kmart is worse on both ends/can't create his own shot.

[Pelicans78]

Carmelo. TP>Carmelo this year. Easily. CP3 as well. NY has struggled recently a lot due to Melo chucking and not playing defense at all anymore.

Anyone who says Durant>Lebron for MVP should not be allowed to have children IMVHO.

lol at people that act like the Spurs are just ho-hum doing what they are expected to do with an aging Tim (who miraculously turned back the clock unexpectedly), an oft-injured Manu and then a bunch of "scrubs" like Neal, Green, De Colo and a young guy like Kawhi starting. People have been writing the Spurs off for how many years? Then when they win, they act like it's some super top flight talented young team in their prime and it's expected.

Durant had a big lead, but Lebron is on pace to pass him and I think he will. But Durant does the heavy lifting for OKC. Westbrook hurts more than help. Just a fact.

[Pelicans78]

Everyone is forgetting at how awesome of a year Durant is having. Lebron has had a great stretch recently, but Durant has done it the whole season and his team does have a better record. I think Lebron will pass him eventually, but up to this point, Durant is ahead.

[Pelicans78]

Jamal Crawford
Eric Bledsoe
Caron Butler
Blake Griffin
DeAndre Jordan

Chauncey Billups
Willie Green
Matt Barnes
Lamar Odom
Ryan Hollins

Looks like more than a lottery team to me. That is a solid team and a solid bench.

It is a solid team, but they did struggle without CP3. He really controls the game similar to Lebron. Not as good, but offensively and defensively, he's elite.

[O.J. Simpson]

Everyone is forgetting at how awesome of a year Durant is having. Lebron has had a great stretch recently, but Durant has done it the whole season and his team does have a better record. I think Lebron will pass him eventually, but up to this point, Durant is ahead.

LeBron has had a great stretch for the whole season. He's just having a god-like stretch over the past week.

[Pelicans78]

LeBron has had a great stretch for the whole season. He's just having a god-like stretch over the past week.

True. But Durant is playing at a monster level as well. Honestly, alot of it is due to FT shooting, but that still counts as production. Its neck and neck, but Durant has the slight lead. However, Lebron is on pace to pass him and I think he will.

[JamStone]

It is a solid team, but they did struggle without CP3. He really controls the game similar to Lebron. Not as good, but offensively and defensively, he's elite.

A little off topic... couple things to note about the Clippers without CP3. While they have struggled especially in recent games before CP3 returned, they did end up going 6-6 without CP3 so far on the season. And also noteworthy is that every game CP3 missed due to injury was compounded by the fact that his would-be replacement was also out with injury in Chauncey Billups. Billups would have been a nice security blanket the Clippers could have relied on had he not also been injured.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the only chance of that spurs hero winning mvp...is winning 60wins or best record in the league...

[DPG21920]

All the Spurs have been doing is exactly what the Suns did from 04-09. Lots of regular season wins, but getting nowhere in the playoffs.

Very few people outside of Spurs fans think they have a legit shot to beat OKC or Miami, despite all these wins, just like very few people outside of the Suns fans thought they had a legit shot to beat teams like SA, Detroit, Miami, and Dallas during their run of all those 50-60+ win seasons.

Dude, the point is that MVP is a regular season award. Mav fans of all people should realize this. I don't classify getting to the WCF as getting "no where" in the playoffs either, but that point is moot. With regards to this topic, people always count out the Spurs for the most part, admit they don't have a lot of talent but when they start to do what they do in the regular season (they've also gotten past the first round every year except once) they immediately act like the Spurs have LA's stacked talent and that it's completely expected.

[jjktkk]

I don't think he is a legit MVP candidate. But that statement had nothing to do with him and his candidacy.

Its actually a two man race between James and Durant, but tp is a legit candidate imo. Playing for the team with the best record, averaging 20.1 points and 7.6 assists per game.game. Hes definitely in the discussion.