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    HIS SOURCE IS A AGENT.

    There were also about 45 agents who told their clients that they were surefire locks for the first round. Agents are liars and pimps.

    He makes a HUGE jump to conclusions, too. Tony is NOT the only other moveable qua y that we have. Nazr, with an ending contract, or the rights to Scola would have made a pretty big splash.

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    Damn, some of you guys are entirely too defensive about things.

    The only untradeable Spurs are Manu and Tim.

    If RC and Pop thought they could improve the team by trading Tony, they'd pull the trigger without hesitation.

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    He makes a HUGE jump to conclusions, too. Tony is NOT the only other moveable qua y that we have. Nazr, with an ending contract, or the rights to Scola would have made a pretty big splash.
    Sorry, but neither Scola or Nazr count as a blockbuster, and neither would make sense to move for a point guard.

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    Hoopsworld is a joke.

    Here's an exercise:

    Pick seven random English words and put them next to each other. Put a period at the end. That sentence you just formed has more substance and is more reliable than the whole Hoopsworld site.

    Ouch! LJ, mind if I use that one to get back at hacks who write stuff that annoys me? Thanks!

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    Whatever, suggest you all meet/read more by this guy before jumping on him? Again, he is a big fan of the Spurs organization. He also puts a lot of time in on the NBA and has lots of sources from the magazine etc.

    By the way had dinner with Bill the night before the draft at ESPN Zone in NY - lots of good info on the NBA gleamed from him and other writers/editors.
    I have....everyone here is pretty much on target.

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    Damn, some of you guys are entirely too defensive about things.

    The only untradeable Spurs are Manu and Tim.

    If RC and Pop thought they could improve the team by trading Tony, they'd pull the trigger without hesitation.

    Incorrect. Parker is also untradeable.

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    Tony is a Base Year Compensation player, right? Makes him pretty untradeable right?

    The other thing this guy fails to mention, is that Tony tends to "fade" as series wears on because other teams tend to focus on taking away HIS penetration. This makes things easier on the other Spurs.

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    Yeah, TP's BYC status pretty much kills this speculation, no matter how many 'informed' sources want to pontificate on his availability...

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    The other thing this guy fails to mention, is that Tony tends to "fade" as series wears on because other teams tend to focus on taking away HIS penetration. This makes things easier on the other Spurs.
    the only thing that comes to mind after reading that is "don't be a homer Walter".

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    Pretty much the people who want to see Parker traded are the dolts who rely only on a boxscore to understand the game.

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    Pretty much the people who want to see Parker traded are the dolts who rely only on a boxscore to understand the game.

    I could name about 15 teams that would kill to have Tony Parker as their starting PG if he were a FA this summer.

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    I think the insinuation that we would pull off some big trade that involved our 23yr old PG (who is at the very least a known element) and recieve possibly a 2005 drafted PG who could be 18-22 (and unknown in NBA play, and unknown quantifier) ..................
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    ............well that is blatently ridicules.

    This is an attention article.

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    Spurs fans don't seem to realize that Parker's penetration is as important to the Spurs' offense as anything that Ginobili does, if not moreso.

    You know, if Ginobili had to face a defender on par with Billups in the Finals he would've been worthless and we'd have threads in here discussing who he could be traded for, and the Manu Mob® would be beside themselves.

    So shut the up, take what someone with the moniker "The Rocket Guy" wrote on 'Hoopsworld' with a grain of salt, and stop cluttering this forum with such nonsense.

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    Furthermore, the Spurs just won a championship with what they have. You keep the core together and keep at it. Parker is very young and evidently well-liked by his teammates and coaches. No tinkering!

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    Very insightful article to the rest of the country. Though the trade rumor is probably bogus,for people around the country understanding the demons Tony has been fighting and the progress he's made is part of getting to know the spurs. It's not as desperate as the writer claims, but it is an interesting dynamic within the the organization.

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    I agree the article sucked and it was stupid to quote an agent. They can say whatever they want for their interest. But it's normal for the Spurs to try and improve their team for next season and look at all options. I wouldn't be too shocked if they considered or even traded Parker. But right now, I doubt there is a tradeable PG out there that could replace Parker.

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    Spurs fans don't seem to realize that Parker's penetration is as important to the Spurs' offense as anything that Ginobili does, if not moreso.

    You know, if Ginobili had to face a defender on par with Billups in the Finals he would've been worthless and we'd have threads in here discussing who he could be traded for, and the Manu Mob® would be beside themselves.

    So shut the up, take what someone with the moniker "The Rocket Guy" wrote on 'Hoopsworld' with a grain of salt, and stop cluttering this forum with such nonsense.

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    you're re ed.

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    If Tony were up for a trade, it would have to be for another ready-to-play-now, top PG. Who could that be?

    Why would the Spurs risk bringing another PG and perhaps blowing another year off Tim's prime trying get the PG to run the team?

    A Tony trade now would be as traumatic to the Spurs team and fans as Malik's was.

    It's The Silly Season for SpursTalk threads and sports "journalists", whose Silly Season is in bloom all year.

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    Ginobili laid some eggs in the Finals let's trade his ass.

    There's nothing wrong with Parker that warrants moving him for the sake of moving him right now. At this point, I'd give him up for Wade and Wade only.

    Moving Parker right now because he isn't perfect and forcing yourself to search for a point guard just as good is probably the most stupid (or "re ed", for 2centsworth) idea I have seen in this forum during this offseason.

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    Truth hurts, doesn't it?

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    If Tony were up for a trade, it would have to be for another ready-to-play-now, top PG. Who could that be?

    Why would the Spurs risk bringing another PG and perhaps blowing another year off Tim's prime trying get the PG to run the team?

    A Tony trade now would be as traumatic to the Spurs team and fans as Malik's was.

    It's The Silly Season for SpursTalk threads and sports "journalists", whose Silly Season is in bloom all year.
    the guy went overboard on the trade talk, but he was on target with about everything else. A lot of people think tony fades, and others think he a top 3 pg who has a couple of rough game here and there.

    My take is he's an unbelievable talent, and without him the spurs would have an extremely difficult time winning championships. Nevertheless, of the big three he has the most room to improve which is good and bad.

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    Spurs fans would quickly realize just how horrible Parker was if the Spurs had to try to find a comparable talent in free agency, in the draft, or via a trade.

    And no, Beno isn't that, no matter how much IceColdBlewski would like to claim otherwise.

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    others think he a top 3 pg who has a couple of rough game here and there.

    I've never heard anyone call Parker a Top 3 PG. Top 10 maybe....even Top 5. Don't exaggerate.

    As for the "Few rough games" here and there....no one has every said that Parker was consistent. We just feel as if for all the bad games he's had--he's had just as many good ones. While the Anti-Parkers concentrate on his bad games, we Pro-Parker's concentrate on the good ones and see the upside potential in them.

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    The closest comparable NBA point guard I can think of who was thrust into the playoff spotlight at a young age within the last decade or so was Sam Cassell. He was 24 when he started his rookie season and he was backing up someone else. Parker's already been through two championship runs as a starter and he just turned 23.

    Get some perspective and stop trading him. Thanks.

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    this article lost all it's credibility when i read the first line... second sentence!

    "The San Antonio Spurs are sitting pretty. Coming off of their second NBA championship in the Tim Duncan era...

    anyways... TONY struggles, and he's inconsistant... i totally agree

    his shot was much better last year than this year... i don't know what happened to it, but all i know is... the guy is young, he's fast and i don't see us trading him... i mean it makes sense, but why would you wanna trade a 22 year old (am i right?) point guard who has already won 2 championships...

    i was pissed when he struggled in the finals... but i remembered, that he has done good things too... now i might be just looking at the good things he's done... i am not paying too much attention to his bad D or lack of D, and his BAD BAD SHOT... but i still like the guy, he stepped up against denver, against seattle... and he guarded NASH very well... better than what the MAVS did... so the guy is only going to improve... it's not he's losing a step, or he's getting a lot older... he's maturing every year, he'll be fine in my opinion...

    btw... who would you guys want right now as your point guard instead of TONY??? lets hear it...

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