Ann Romney "happy to blame the media" for Mitt losing the election

[Reck]

lol Mitt saying it kills him that he's not president....so much for his son's BS story about how Mitt didn't really want to be president.

ing re named tagg.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It's simpler than that: there's the old neoconservative fossils (I include the Christian dominionists and rich people as neocons) and the younger libertarian-leaning voters.... unfortunately, the GOP is completely dominated by the neocons, and will have no chance at winning the election ever again until the neocons GTFO, tbh....

It would probably make more sense to just not have neocon as its own group and say the main 3 factions are rich people, dominionists, and libertarians (the one group that actually knows what small government is) since they're all neo-conservative other than the libertarians. I definitely wouldn't have dominionists and rich people in the same group as one of their big problems is not having a candidate who appeals to both. Willard was the rich people's candidate and made himself look like an ass trying to pander to dominionists.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

ing re named tagg.

but it's a family name

lol mormon inbreds having re ed family names

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The GOP needs to quit appeasing the left and start acting like conseratives.

The GOP never left primary mode.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I think being a Mormon hurt him.

This post btw is an example of the candidate who was hand picked by corporations not being able to appeal to dominionists.

[Clipper Nation]

The GOP needs to quit appeasing the left and start acting like conseratives.

The GOP hasn't acted like conservatives in decades... why would they start now?

[spursncowboys]

So according to snc Mitt didn't lose because
- he wanted to destroy Medicare for everyone but the Baby Boomers (meanwhile younger generations still get to pay in for the Boomers' benefits)
- he wanted to slash the capital gains tax to zero for him and his criminal friends on Wall Street
- he thought tax cuts should only be for the rich
- his party tried to silence the minority vote
- he wanted to blow even more money on the military while nickel-and-diming that matters

Instead:

It was the journalists in Obama's back pocket

The media has been doing the same thing for a while. I don't know where I stated that the media was the reason. I commented how all the left made him out to be the only candidate who could beat bho.

[baseline bum]

Because Santorum would have been president without the red left media

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Any other Republican would have gotten severely out-fundraised by Obama and would have done even worse than Willard. Willard is if nothing else a smart guy who could almost match Obama intellectually. Santorum would have been carpet bombed with ads and gotten throttled in the debates.

[BobaFett1]

The GOP never left primary mode.

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My current grading system is similar to academic grading in that it's a 0-4 scale. I rarely ever give 0s or 4s as those usually require a total whiff or blowing up the opponent. Getting blown up in pass protection is typically a 1 or "D" as it at least slows the opponent down but it may be a 0 on a run play.

I vary from a lot of grading system in that I weight games similar to an AP high school class. A player's first game gets .01 multiplier while their 16th gets .16. The rationale is that players should be more comfortable with the "system" as the season goes on. It rewards players who play well late in the season which in theory is when you want to be playing your best as the playoffs approach. The hole in weighting this way is that it punishes a player who misses a few games but at the same time, missing time should be punished.

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Right on. I like that it makes it much more meaningful if a bit more subjective. Appreciate the insight.
“Cynicism is nothing but intellectual cowardice.”
- Henry Rollins

Planning to fail is not the same as planning for failure

[spursncowboys]

Any other Republican would have gotten severely out-fundraised by Obama and would have done even worse than Willard. Willard is if nothing else a smart guy who could almost match Obama intellectually. Santorum would have been carpet bombed with ads and gotten throttled in the debates.

1. Obama's intellect? Come on kood aid drinker. Sure he's smart. But the fact that he is more intelligent than any one of the Repub candidates is ridiculous. I'm not talking Santorum. The Santorums and Huckabees are the reason the GOP get the 'Kerry' kind of candidate. But it's ridiculous to listen to someone who will not vote for a Republican tell Americans who is their best candidate. Bush won the first time, not because he won the undecided. He excited the base, which got out the vote. But Obama did win. And it was with an overall pro-Obama media. Nothing new. If the media wasn't biased, Obama probably still would have won. But that is the beauty with Dems. They get to promise the world. They are pretty much buying the votes. I remember watching Hilary and BHO as they were trying to out do each other at every state.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by StanleySpadowski
My current grading system is similar to academic grading in that it's a 0-4 scale. I rarely ever give 0s or 4s as those usually require a total whiff or blowing up the opponent. Getting blown up in pass protection is typically a 1 or "D" as it at least slows the opponent down but it may be a 0 on a run play.

I vary from a lot of grading system in that I weight games similar to an AP high school class. A player's first game gets .01 multiplier while their 16th gets .16. The rationale is that players should be more comfortable with the "system" as the season goes on. It rewards players who play well late in the season which in theory is when you want to be playing your best as the playoffs approach. The hole in weighting this way is that it punishes a player who misses a few games but at the same time, missing time should be punished.

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Right on. I like that it makes it much more meaningful if a bit more subjective. Appreciate the insight.
“Cynicism is nothing but intellectual cowardice.”
- Henry Rollins

Planning to fail is not the same as planning for failure

Nice to see you obsess over me to the point of tracking to other places I post. If you keep looking, you will find I post at other locations under the same user name. You flaglot's troll? It seems like something he would do.

[2centsworth]

- he wanted to destroy Medicare for everyone but the Baby Boomers (meanwhile younger generations still get to pay in for the Boomers' benefits)
- he wanted to slash the capital gains tax to zero for him and his criminal friends on Wall Street
- he thought tax cuts should only be for the rich

How the ignorant vote was won.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

How the ignorant vote was won.

Sure thing asexual reproduction and corpse reanimation believer.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

1. Obama's intellect? Come on kood aid drinker. Sure he's smart. But the fact that he is more intelligent than any one of the Repub candidates is ridiculous. I'm not talking Santorum. The Santorums and Huckabees are the reason the GOP get the 'Kerry' kind of candidate. But it's ridiculous to listen to someone who will not vote for a Republican tell Americans who is their best candidate. Bush won the first time, not because he won the undecided. He excited the base, which got out the vote. But Obama did win. And it was with an overall pro-Obama media. Nothing new. If the media wasn't biased, Obama probably still would have won. But that is the beauty with Dems. They get to promise the world. They are pretty much buying the votes. I remember watching Hilary and BHO as they were trying to out do each other at every state.

I think Obama is significantly smarter than Santorum, Perry, Bachman, or Paul. Gingrich and Romney were the two who could match Obama intellectually (I wasn't saying Obama is some great intellectual or anything), but Gingrich would have been a bad candidate for a lot of other reasons (a big one being women find him absolutely repulsive). Just look at the debates. Romney overall gained votes with the debates because he matched Obama intellectually. Compare that to 2008 when Obama was debating a senial dumb who graduated 5th from the bottom of his class.

Regarding Romney, the fact that I like the guy for idiosyncratic reasons isn't why I'm saying he was the GOP's best candidate. He was the only one who could match (or even outdo) Obama's fundraising while all the other candidates would have gotten battered in the fundraising department like McCain did. Elections are unfortunately more about fundraising now than they've ever been before. That's not really a subjective view, it's just reality. How much money the candidate can raise is up their in importance regardless of how the candidate comes across to voters.

[Clipper Nation]

I think Obama is significantly smarter than Santorum, Perry, Bachman, or Paul.

at lumping a doctor and economist in with the likes of Frothy, Rick Perry, and Bachmann

[2centsworth]

I think Obama is significantly smarter than Santorum, Perry, Bachman, or Paul. Gingrich and Romney were the two who could match Obama intellectually

I disagree on Santorum. You may not like his perspective, but I've never heard anyone argue moral agenda more articulately. Plus, the guy was just as sharp, if not sharper, than Newt on foreign policy.

[Clipper Nation]

I disagree on Santorum. You may not like his perspective, but I've never heard anyone argue moral agenda more articulately.

This is "articulate"?

In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included sexuality. That’s not to pick on sexuality. It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be.

[Gay marriage] is an issue just like 9-11... We didn't decide we wanted to fight the war on terrorism because we wanted to. It was brought to us. And if not now, when? When the supreme courts in all the other states have suc bed to the Massachusetts version of the law?

Is anyone saying same-sex couples can't love each other? I love my children. I love my friends, my brother. Heck, I even love my mother-in-law. Should we call these relationships marriage, too?

Plus, the guy was just as sharp, if not sharper, than Newt on foreign policy.

Both of them support the same expensive, uncons utional, and morally-wrong neoconservative foreign policy, so he's definitely not "sharp" on that, tbh....

[spursncowboys]

I think Obama is significantly smarter than Santorum, Perry, Bachman, or Paul. Gingrich and Romney were the two who could match Obama intellectually (I wasn't saying Obama is some great intellectual or anything), but Gingrich would have been a bad candidate for a lot of other reasons (a big one being women find him absolutely repulsive). Just look at the debates. Romney overall gained votes with the debates because he matched Obama intellectually. Compare that to 2008 when Obama was debating a senial dumb who graduated 5th from the bottom of his class.

Regarding Romney, the fact that I like the guy for idiosyncratic reasons isn't why I'm saying he was the GOP's best candidate. He was the only one who could match (or even outdo) Obama's fundraising while all the other candidates would have gotten battered in the fundraising department like McCain did. Elections are unfortunately more about fundraising now than they've ever been before. That's not really a subjective view, it's just reality. How much money the candidate can raise is up their in importance regardless of how the candidate comes across to voters.

So you mean more politically than intelligence...I think Gingrich and Romney were the most disciplined and strategic.

Money wise, I think the group that, idiotically, pushed Perry into it (and then moved on the Santorum) would have matched anything BHO could have gotten. The GOP's problem was foot soldiers. The minute Obama was elected, they should have been starting to build bases in places like central florida, southern Ohio, and most of Virginia. Obama had the social media, but they could have gotten into it. Satirical comedians online. Instead they would make commercials and let the topic die. Hoping Weekly Standard, Fox News, and National Review do all their work. Plus they should have found a common issue that would have united all their caucuses, which I think Rand Paul is going to be able to do.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He mistakes a guys saying stuff that he agrees with with articulation.

[baseline bum]

How the ignorant vote was won.

LOL calling it the ignorant vote when he and Ryan were out campaigning for zeroing out capital gains. And LOL at ing about the 47% when they're not paying federal tax since it would have looked bad had Bush only given tax cuts to the rich. Bible thumping dip thinks Ryan wouldn't put his medicare destruction bill back on the table with President Neocon there to sign it. Yeah, Mitt picked him for his boyish looks.

[spursncowboys]

at lumping a doctor and economist in with the likes of Frothy, Rick Perry, and Bachmann

Bachmann has a J.D and A LLM

[baseline bum]

I disagree on Santorum. You may not like his perspective, but I've never heard anyone argue moral agenda more articulately. Plus, the guy was just as sharp, if not sharper, than Newt on foreign policy.

He was really sharp when he called Obama an anti-war government nigg*r in that speech.

[Clipper Nation]

Bachmann has a J.D and A LLM

Bachmann thinks sexuality is a disease that can be cured by "praying the gay away"

[spursncowboys]

Bachmann thinks sexuality is a disease that can be cured by "praying the gay away"

Obama thinks that welfare has helped the black community