Obama/Biden flip floppin on Iran now.........intresting

[BobaFett1]

Idk why that's a bad thing. The sooner we stop trying to control Iran, the sooner their clerics will stop being able to use us as a way of uniting Iran behind Islamic extremism. We empower radical clerics every time we try to influence Iran. If we didn't stage a coup in the 1950s to take out a Democratically elected leader in Iran so we could replace him with an oil puppet, we wouldn't have any of these problems we have with Iran today.

DUNCANownsKOBE I kind of agree with you but man with the radical muslims would of been in control no matter what we did or not did.

[Halberto]

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Halberto/+

whats this about?

[spursncowboys]

I used to think the "zionists control America" stuff was bull anti-Semitism up until a year ago (if you do some digging you'll find threads where I sang quite a different tune on Israel) but it seems obvious to me now that it's not at all. Netanyahu has more influence over America's foreign policy than any other foreign leader ever has in American history. Even after how much of a disaster the war in Iraq was, we have millions of people in this country (some of which just as liberal as I am on other issues) pining to go start another war that will cost another trillion dollars and more American lives than the war in Iraq did largely because a zionist leader on the other side of the world is telling us we need to. The fact going to war with Iran is even being seriously discussed with the shape our economy is in and with the domestic issues we have proves how much Israel controls this country.

I will say that any liberal who tries to justify any Obama administration aggression towards Iran is a hypocrite. It's a total flip flop if Obama starts showing aggression towards Iran.

So you are ok with Iran having proxy wars and manipulating most of the coutries to their West? I do notice that liberals who get into power have a different stance on the middle east. But I think that has a lot to do with the briefings they get. With the intel they have.

In the next hundred years I could see Iran as a full blown world power. In the past twenty years, they have just been getting more powerful and having a larger role

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I am talking about Obama not the adinistration before. Stick on the subject at hand liberals. Plus Biden was talking not pussy ass Obummer.

This is a pretty stupid statement. And I'm trying to figure whose troll you are. The this is my subject schtick was a theme of someone's.

[DarrinS]

Idk why that's a bad thing. The sooner we stop trying to control Iran, the sooner their clerics will stop being able to use us as a way of uniting Iran behind Islamic extremism. We empower radical clerics every time we try to influence Iran. If we didn't stage a coup in the 1950s to take out a Democratically elected leader in Iran so we could replace him with an oil puppet, we wouldn't have any of these problems we have with Iran today.

Someone recently watched Argo. Lol

[Wild Cobra]

So during the election Obama wanted to discuss issues with Iran and not threatened them with millitary action. Now since jigga won the elction he has changed tune and threatened them with millitary action? wth? Negro and cracker both have no clue what they are doing. Funny they ripped Mitt for talking tough on Iran now they are doing same . I am all for the goverment doing what they have to do but I was wondering how you Obama defenders would react to this matter?

Democrats have a history into taking us and continuing sticky wars. Look at Korea and Viet Nam. Most wars started by a republican were quickly dealt with. These terrorists put different challenges in to win. Just the same, Bush (43) did get us out of Iraq, and now... is it true? Is B. Hoperah O. wanting to take us back in?

[Wild Cobra]

racist? I said they are dumbasses does not make me racist.......u do not know me man

You forget. Blacks have special rights. Anytime you say anything not nice, it is a racist comment.

[BobaFett1]

The liberal blacks do. If you are a conserative black then you get called a sell out.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Someone recently watched Argo. Lol

I honeslt haven't seen that movie yet. I had to do a research paper on the topic several years ago, but everything I said is fact. We took out a Democratically elected leader in a country and claim we're "promoting democracy!"

[ChumpDumper]

Someone recently watched Argo. Lol

I haven't watched Argo.

What issue do you have with the statement as written, Darrin?

[George Gervin's Afro]

So right wingers are in favor of using force with Iran.... why the complaining then?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

So right wingers are in favor of using force with Iran.... why the complaining then?

They only like using force and going to war when it's a Republican present. If Obama did it it'd be wasteful spending.

I'll actually give snc credit there. I might vehemently disagree with his foreign policy views, but at least he doesn't change them based off the letter next to the president's name.

[Th'Pusher]

I haven't watched Argo.

What issue do you have with the statement as written, Darrin?

DarrinS learned something he didn't know from watching a movie and now assumes everyone else learned these facts from the movie as well.

[ChumpDumper]

Darrin seriously didn't know that?

Damn, that's some ignorance right dere.

[sjacquemotte]

I honeslt haven't seen that movie yet. I had to do a research paper on the topic several years ago, but everything I said is fact. We took out a Democratically elected leader in a country and claim we're "promoting democracy!"

What country are you referring to

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

DarrinS learned something he didn't know from watching a movie and now assumes everyone else learned these facts from the movie as well.

what's funny is how true that is. He's projecting the fact he only learns about American history through movies onto other people. There's NOOOOOOOOO other way someone would be informed about the coup we staged if they didn't see Argo since that's the only way DarrinS would ever learn about it.

[sjacquemotte]

They only like using force and going to war when it's a Republican present. If Obama did it it'd be wasteful spending.I'll actually give snc credit there. I might vehemently disagree with his foreign policy views, but at least he doesn't change them based off the letter next to the president's name.

Btw good job bringing up issues and not trolling. Ftr: I'm not a hawk.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

What country are you referring to

I'm referring to removing Mohammad Mosaddegh from power in Iran thereby replacing a democratically elected leader with a totalitarian shah (but you already know that).

The "promoting democracy!" part wasn't referring to any country in particular, it was about the US pretending to care about democracy in the middle east being total bull .

[Clipper Nation]

You forget. Blacks have special rights. Anytime you say anything not nice, it is a racist comment.

Any time someone says they don't like most black people or refuse to be operated on by a black surgeon, it really IS a racist comment...

[sjacquemotte]

Promoting democracy imo isn't bull . In Iran's case, keeping ussr from expanding was priority number one. Regardless of what the Shah did, the ayatollahs and mullahs have been far worse. For America, and especially the world. Especially if you factor in the precedent they set as the beg of radical Islam in the middle east

[Wild Cobra]

Any time someone says they don't like most black people or refuse to be operated on by a black surgeon, it really IS a racist comment...

LOL...

I love how my choice comments stick in people's asses. I said I don't like most black people to stir the pot, and later said I don't like most white people either. I never said I wouldn't be operated on by a black surgeon, but was making a point about the quota system.

Ankle biters just can't let go...

Haven't you guys yet picked up? I'm an equal opportunity offender when it comes to stupidity..

[Th'Pusher]

Darrin seriously didn't know that?

Damn, that's some ignorance right dere.

Based on what I've read on this board, I'd venture to guess that DarrinS is not very well read, at all. Hed be in the Bottom quintile if regular posters in the political forum were rated on how well read each was.

[sjacquemotte]

Based on what I've read on this board, I'd venture to guess that DarrinS is not very well read, at all. Hed be in the Bottom quintile if regular posters in the political forum were rated on how well read each was.

Where would you rate yourself?

[Th'Pusher]

Difficult to say. 65 to 85 percentile.

[ChumpDumper]

Promoting democracy imo isn't bull . In Iran's case, keeping ussr from expanding was priority number one. Regardless of what the Shah did, the ayatollahs and mullahs have been far worse. For America, and especially the world. Especially if you factor in the precedent they set as the beg of radical Islam in the middle east

There's an argument to me made that the ayatollahs and mullahs came to power because we installed and supported the Shah for so long.