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25% 3pt teams are gonna start sagging off
Kid is re ed needs medication
25% 3pt teams are gonna start sagging off
Leonard hasn't had the start to the season I thought he would but don't worry about Kawhi, he'll be fine in next games.
Last edited by wildchild; 12-02-2013 at 12:42 AM.
His shot was always a known problem along with his handles tbh
hes been struggling for about 1 season now with his shot
maybe he was just shooting well when he first got here and now were seeing his actual shot tbh
also should mention his free throws
he was horrible in the playoffs and he never seems to hit 2 consecutive ones anymore
Bruce was a really bad free throw shooter, too.
I know. Bruce was a great 3's shooter. Damn miss the guy.
mostly from the corners
Leonard may be going through a mini slump. His game was off against Houston. His defense was poor as was his shot selection and execution. As hard as he works, he'll be fine.
It's funny to see people say Kawhi will be fine as if there's empirical data to show he's always returned from shooting slumps in the NBA.
The truth is that, if the Spurs work with him enough, his 3pt shooting will improve. Like golf players, shooters have form issues that they need trainers to address and correct. Even Tiger has people adjust his form time to time. So it can happen that his shooting improves, however you have a limited amount of training time now that the season has begun, and you have an assortment of issues to address with the entire team. The Spurs have to decide if his shooting is really an issue or if they'd prefer he concentrate on defense and take what comes to him on the offensive end. Tony used to shoot a lot of threes as well, but his shot was about the same as Leonard's and he eventually worked with Chip to become a better mid range shooter. Kawhi is a great mid range shooter and he can rise above others and get it off at will most of the time. I think the Spurs should focus on getting him more of those looks.
He was a better player last year imo, I'm very disappointed in his improvement this year but it's still early so im hoping he gets that one game that lifts up his confidence again so he can get his shot back. His development just seems at a stalemate right now.
He needs minutes to do all of this though, he is not going to be an all-star player with his current low minute average. Pop has him playing roll-player minutes so it's hard for him to not be anything but I guess.
I'd hesitate to put Kawhi and great (having anything to do with offense, except rebounding) in the same sentence. He needs to get to the basket early and often because his shooting is far too sporadic to be counted on.
His offense is just terrible; whoever stated he could be Paul George on the right team , looks worse and worse by the day.
What's funny is that he looked great against the Thunder for the first three quarters and then fizzled out
He's shooting 60% from 2. Stephen Curry is shooting 47% Monta Ellis 49%. Tony Parker 51%. Duncan's best season was 55% from 2pt range.
Who would you call a great shooter from mid range? I think a lot of you guys just see a game or a box score and you don't know the truth about the player's efficiency.
Obviously practicing his moves a lot more than his spot up shooting which is all he would have done when he first came in to fit spurs system
He is already a good mid range shooter. He needs time, he's not like other players who were guns in college, he was completely raw offensively when he came in
Kawhi Leonard has regressed to a monkeyballer this season
all his offense is off cuts to the basket or dunks in fastbreak after he gets a steal
wont be long til teams start completely disregarding him now and he gets the Tony Allen treatment
There's nothing else he can really do since most of his minutes are played with Parker and Duncan, tbh..
A lineup that includes Parker/Leonard/Duncan/Splitter provides minimal spacing, and Leonard can't shoot from outside to take advantage of Parker's penetration..his only option is scoring in the ways you mentioned, along with the off the dribble mid-range..
He gets plenty of opportunity to get to the basket
we all know his handles are horrible
but no one really mentions his footwork either which holds him back more then his handles
he just doesnt have that natural rhythm when he drives that guys like Manu/Tony have where they can slice a defense
he always takes 1 or 2 clunky steps then shoots some awkward 1 handed floater after having the ball get knocked around while he tries to go up
then you have the 1/2 dribble pullups which is also a characteristic of his bad footwork
he doesnt know how to take more then 2 steps and dribble a ball tbh..
people definitely overrate spacing
its important but Spurs move so well off the ball its not like they can constantly clog the lane or double team or just isolate and let teams get in prime defensive position
have no idea but Danny/Kawhi were working on in the offseason but it hasn't translated at all to the regular season
I know Danny was working on his 1 dribble pullups which he hit at the beginning of the season but its abandoned him already
I agree, 1 or 2 clunky steps then some hesitation and voila, an incredible awkward brick going to nowhere.
Last edited by Mikeanaro; 12-03-2013 at 12:03 AM.
Agree he looks clunky, reminds me of Artest when he was younger, but he also looks like he's thinking too much and rushing. But from all reports, he will continue to work his ass off on his handles and footwork over the next few years and won't die wondering.
the problem for a guy like Kawhi, who isn't a natural shooter at all, is that when he gets in a funk it hits really hard because he doubts himself more than normal. Same thing for Timmy.
However, his midrange game has still looked pretty solid and Kawhi does have a knack for hitting big 3's (or at least I feel like he does, stats might prove me wrong).
He's been just about what I expected so far this season, I think he'll hit his stride later in the season. I really think he could use a night where the big 3 sit so he could dominate the offense and get as many touches as he wants. That's the best way to work out of a funk and it should establish his confidence
Do not complain about what you perceive to be some just looking at the "at the box score", as you're using a statistic that in all truth is very likely to be inflated due to Leonard taking few shots in comparison to those you listed. Tho, he isn't a 3 point shooter & that should be clear to Pop & the coaching staff.
I think Kawhi's inability to hit the three is really hurting the first unit and destroying the spacing. Tbh, you really only have one guy on the first unit that can hit a shot from beyond the arc with some reliability (Danny Green) and he's so streaky that he's unreliable at times!!!
Not worried, IMO
Leonard is 10 for 44 from 3 so far, but 78 for 134 from 2.
Those aren't even in the ballpark of Tony's numbers, but if we are saying he's not a 3pt shooter because he's 10 for 44, then you cannot turn around and say he's not a 2pt shooter by ignoring that he's 78 for 134 from 2.
You cannot have it both ways. Just because you want to think there are other factors that stats don't take into account doesn't mean you can cherry pick the stats to suit your argument.
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