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    gr8
    Easy March became tough for the spurs

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    oh and im guessing you're getting plenty of calls from front offices wanting to hire you for your vast knowledge of basketball, LOL

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    oh and im guessing you're getting plenty of calls from front offices wanting to hire you for your vast knowledge of basketball, LOL
    You do realize that the Spurs are considered the best in the world, for quite some time now, at bringing overseas players into the NBA and maximizing their talents and winning championships in the process, right? But you know better? Got it.

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    Baynes had value in this game. Spurs shot almost 20% less from the field and 30%less from the 3stripe - there were simply a lot of offensive boards to get, yet the WHOLE TEAM got 8....8! FFS 8 offensive boards and I think 4 of those were lucky, land in your lap boards and not contested ones. Also defense of the screen was atrociously bad, with slow footed blair/diaw/bonner sagging and NOT helping the guard as they were playing small and did not want to allow the tall roll tot he basket. This meant little pressure to the now open guard when shooting and the chance for the screening big to get free on the boards or on the roll...both of which happened.

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    the fact that Blair and Bonner arent even bench caliber players anymore should earn Baynes some minutes
    his blocks were actually very impressive considering he had athletic 7 footers going hard for a dunk
    even a guy like Duncan wont block those shots
    just move out of the way because he isnt strong enough, doesnt want to get postered, or get him the foul call
    Baynes is big and athletic enough to send them back
    I really hope this earn him some minutes going forward. If Blair can't guard big sitting on Bonner's shoulders, why not give the minutes to Baynes and prepare him for the playoffs just in case Duncan gets in foul trouble.

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    it's not when duncan get into fould trouble that is necessarily the issue, but TD needs rest and should not be expected to shoulder all of the load he has for the past 10 years. Baynes is big and solid, in those situations where there is significant muscle or size on the other side then Baynes can provide valuable minutes - valuable both in hustle and wearing down the opposition and also in allowing TD to recuperate.

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    The "development" of Baynes should be helped by the fact that the Australian team play the same system of S.A. thanks to Brett Brown...so he should already have known a lot of our plays just from the first mome nt he came here.
    I think the confidence matter can be related more on Blair and Bonner confidence, going in the play offs, than in Baynes one...the guy is already experienced enough, having played professional basketball in Europe and having played the olimpic games.
    The point is that both Blair and Bonner looks like they have incredibly regressed their game, also in the regular season ganes. That's, imho, difficult to understand.
    Bonner has already shown that is main skill (3 point shooting) is still active.
    Blair has been given every opportunity to play, and has been so treated fairly since he asked for being traded.
    But they are both playing with no positive impact on the game.
    At this point, their minutes should be are in serious danger also for regular season games...and their play off's minutes should already be considered non existent.
    So playing Baynes defintely makes some sense...

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    I hate the turd towers as much as the next guy, but people that think Pop is going to just let Baynes go out there and play anything other than garbage time hasn't watched the Spurs much. And let's be clear here, Baynes right now probably couldn't even drive himself home, much less become the next Tiago Splitter in 20 or so games.
    I really don't think he could do much worse than Blair. I'm not saying he should be a regular rotation player, but if its a game we're essentially "throwing" or a game that got out of hand by early in the 3rd, why not give him some extended run? The only time i remember him getting significant minutes he had his 7 points and 9 rebounds or somethin against Charlotte.

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    I hate the turd towers as much as the next guy, but people that think Pop is going to just let Baynes go out there and play anything other than garbage time hasn't watched the Spurs much. And let's be clear here, Baynes right now probably couldn't even drive himself home, much less become the next Tiago Splitter in 20 or so games.

    Nobody is expecting that. But in a game like last night, which was decided midway through the third, he could/should have played more. We lose that game no matter what, so why not give him the time on the floor to get more comfortable with the system?

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    in his limited minutes he got 50% of the team blocks. I know it was garbage time, but the issue is the help on the drive and filling the paint. A guard can play up tighter outside the arc knowing that the rotation big coming to help has some presence. Early in the third dropping him in with the order to be hard on the off boards and deny the paint could have had a small impact.

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    Bonner did nothing...retire baby!

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    Don't get Pop's refusal to play Baynes until there is no doubt at all about the outcome of the game.
    Matty Bonbon getting the start and more minutes.

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    CIA Popped has received a number of grade Cs from you. How many Cs can *the best coach in the NBA* get and remain the best?
    .500 playoffs 2008 til now.

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    I hate the turd towers as much as the next guy, but people that think Pop is going to just let Baynes go out there and play anything other than garbage time hasn't watched the Spurs much. And let's be clear here, Baynes right now probably couldn't even drive himself home, much less become the next Tiago Splitter in 20 or so games.
    I could say the say thing aout De Colo but that didn't stop Pop from throwing him out there from day 1. It took him nearly 4 months to realize in no way shape or form is ready for this level of compe ion. And Bonner's been garbage for three seasons so giving Baynes minutes over Bonner really isn't hurting the bottom line. The worst he can do is play like Bonner. But his upside is undoubtedly higher.

    And if Pop's out to throw a game with terrible rotations, throwing one more body out there isnt going to hurt.

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    You Baynes people crack me up. The dude can barely find his apartment in SA.

    This is his first stint ever in the NBA. He just joined a team with the most complicated offensive and defensive schemes in the entire world of basketball to understand. The game is going twice as fast as he has ever seen. He has given several interviews saying he is doing his best to adjust but he and the Spurs are on the same page in terms of his development. Yet you think because he has wide shoulders he should be getting 20+ a game and the 3rd big rotation spot.

    Just stop, it is really annoying and never going to happen. And if he did get any meaningful minutes you'd probably go change your screen names for all your idiotic takes. He's a project, not an impact player this year. Get it through your skull.
    ...........and you would prefer Dejuan the sloth Blair, or Matt the fossil of trex Bonner?

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    wake up call, we got our asses handed to us

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    And I know this isn't a popular take in these parts, but I would argue the reason we've seen Tiago develop into the player he is right now (overlooking tonight's performance) is because the Spurs don't do "player on the fly" development. For all the ing the past two years of him not getting minutes, the Spurs took the semi-conservative approach of gradually integrating him and allowing him to grow and maximize his skillset so they can reap the results for another run in a relatively short period of time. It's not like he is an athletic freak, but his PnR timing is now the best in the game and his finishing touch and consistency around the basket are 100% better than they were even at the 20-game point this season.
    Or maybe he could have become a starter earlier... And we would be chasing #6
    I do not exactly disagree with what you said but the Spurs did not develop Duncan, did not develop Ginobili... And they developped Parker "on the fly". Splitter? He was a star in Europe. If you ask me, he should have adapted faster.

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    have to agree on manu's lack of agression on the boards-there was one missed shot in the 2nd quarter where he and diaw had a clean shot at a board and they both just literally waited for someone else to get it. and of course, someone else did-from the other team. that is not the manu i know so that was just awful. is he hiding an injury ? is he lacking confidence ?

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    You Baynes people crack me up. The dude can barely find his apartment in SA.

    This is his first stint ever in the NBA. He just joined a team with the most complicated offensive and defensive schemes in the entire world of basketball to understand. The game is going twice as fast as he has ever seen. He has given several interviews saying he is doing his best to adjust but he and the Spurs are on the same page in terms of his development. Yet you think because he has wide shoulders he should be getting 20+ a game and the 3rd big rotation spot.

    Just stop, it is really annoying and never going to happen. And if he did get any meaningful minutes you'd probably go change your screen names for all your idiotic takes. He's a project, not an impact player this year. Get it through your skull.
    That Matt Bonner is such a legitimate starting center tbh.....................

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    I could say the say thing aout De Colo but that didn't stop Pop from throwing him out there from day 1. It took him nearly 4 months to realize in no way shape or form is ready for this level of compe ion. And Bonner's been garbage for three seasons so giving Baynes minutes over Bonner really isn't hurting the bottom line. The worst he can do is play like Bonner. But his upside is undoubtedly higher.

    And if Pop's out to throw a game with terrible rotations, throwing one more body out there isnt going to hurt.
    De Colo had a full training camp with the Spurs, and you know Pop value those highly.

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    You Baynes people crack me up. The dude can barely find his apartment in SA.

    This is his first stint ever in the NBA. He just joined a team with the most complicated offensive and defensive schemes in the entire world of basketball to understand. The game is going twice as fast as he has ever seen. He has given several interviews saying he is doing his best to adjust but he and the Spurs are on the same page in terms of his development. Yet you think because he has wide shoulders he should be getting 20+ a game and the 3rd big rotation spot.

    Just stop, it is really annoying and never going to happen. And if he did get any meaningful minutes you'd probably go change your screen names for all your idiotic takes. He's a project, not an impact player this year. Get it through your skull.
    Baynes isn't completely new to the system. He's played for the Boomers, the Australian National Basketball team, for years now, and who was the coach for most of the years that Baynes played? That's right, it was Brett Brown, currently one of the Spurs' assistant coaches; and what system did Brett Brown employ whilst the coach of the national team? That's right, the same system that's used with the Spurs (or at least that's what we've been told on many occasions).

    I agree that Baynes shouldn't be given 20+ minutes a game, but I don't see the risk in giving him some decent garbage time to help with his confidence, and to give him some more NBA on court experience. Even in a blow out game, Pop will either not play Baynes at all, or play him in the final seconds of the game. It's not like Bonner and Blair have completely outplayed him, so why not just give him a chance to prove himself?

    From what we've seen, Baynes is extremely raw on the offensive end, but he has great size and length for his position, relative to the other backup "bigs", and can decently protect the rim.

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    I hope resting Leonard was because of something real. I mean come on he is only what 23 years old? In any case he is not some at the end of his age vet that needs DNPs. If he is healthy the best thing for a young player is to get as many minutes as possible for game experience.

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    I hope resting Leonard was because of something real. I mean come on he is only what 23 years old? In any case he is not some at the end of his age vet that needs DNPs. If he is healthy the best thing for a young player is to get as many minutes as possible for game experience.
    I don't.

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    He'll turn 22 this summer.

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    Actually, Pop and the team would've been better off if he had chosen to rest Manu and allowed Kawai to play. That is assuming Leonard was having more tendinitis flareups in his knee. As for Baynes, he certainly could've garnered more minutes. After all, the Spurs second half play amounted to nothing more than garbage time. Baynes wasn't going to spark any kind of comeback, but he certainly could've garnered more minutes in a total blowout situation.

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    Horrible game. Blow it up. On to the next.

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