Drone do ents case: federal appeals court rules against CIA

[Wild Cobra]

NYT: Obama cites a Nixonian precedent

You're joking. Anyone buying that argument?

Nixon and South Viet Nam, over just a short period, attacked 40,000 Viet Cong troops in Cambodia. We aren't talking about individial low to medium profile targets like Obomba is going after. This only lasted 14 months. Not a continuous process.

Largely buried in history? No it wasn't. I remember it, and the details are easily searched.

[Wild Cobra]

Besides, if like the link says, it secretly began a year earlier, then Johnson started it. Not Nixon. It would be Nixon that told the public.

The NY Slimes...

Really now...

[Winehole23]

The NYT mentions that the bombings started under Johnson.

RIF . . .

[Wild Cobra]

The NYT mentions that the bombings started under Johnson.

RIF . . .

You are pretty bad with timelines, aren't you.

4/30/69, Nixon tells the public about bombing Cambodia. It was probably no secret when the first attack was under his watch.

The Slimes:

ON March 17, 1969, President Richard M. Nixon began a secret bombing campaign in Cambodia

They cited as historical authority a speech given May 28, 1970, by John R. Stevenson, then the top lawyer for the State Department, following the United States’ invasion of Cambodia.

They can't get the history correct. They are using May '70 for when the public was told, saying it was secret a year earlier, when Nixon told the world om March '69.

When will you people learn not to trust the NY Slimes?

[Wild Cobra]

The NYT mentions that the bombings started under Johnson.

RIF . . .

Yes, in '65.

Now that on is a shocker!

It wasn't until the 40,000 troops massed on the southern border of S. Viet Nam that we needed to attack.

[ChumpDumper]

So the Times was correct.

[Wild Cobra]

So the Times was correct.

Typical Chump.

Get one item right or wrong, and the rest applies is the same.

Go away troll.

[ChumpDumper]

But the Times was correct.

[Winehole23]

You are pretty bad with timelines, aren't you.

4/30/69, Nixon tells the public about bombing Cambodia. It was probably no secret when the first attack was under his watch.

The Slimes:





They can't get the history correct. They are using May '70 for when the public was told, saying it was secret a year earlier, when Nixon told the world om March '69.

When will you people learn not to trust the NY Slimes?

according to your own cite, Nixon didn't tell the public until April 30, 1969.

are you having trouble following your own timeline?

[ChumpDumper]

You are pretty bad with timelines, aren't you.

4/30/69, Nixon tells the public about bombing Cambodia. It was probably no secret when the first attack was under his watch.

The Slimes:





They can't get the history correct. They are using May '70 for when the public was told, saying it was secret a year earlier, when Nixon told the world om March '69.

When will you people learn not to trust the NY Slimes?

From the Nixon Library timeline:

March 17 (Eastern Standard Time) [1969]
Nixon orders secret bombings of Cambodia to destroy North Vietnamese supply routes and base camps, commencing with "Operation Breakfast."

http://www.nixonlibrary.gov/thetimes...index.php#1969

April 30 [1970]
Announces the launching of military attacks on enemy sanctuaries in Cambodia

http://www.nixonlibrary.gov/thetimes...index.php#1970

So the writer of the Times Op-Ed was correct.

[Winehole23]

looks like WC fudged the wikipedia cite.

On 30 April 1970, President Nixon announced the attack into Cambodia. In a televised address to the nation, he justified it as a necessary response to North Vietnamese aggression

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_Campaign

[ElNono]

Slime Cobra, tbh

[Winehole23]

bias, self-certainty and tortured interpretation are more or less tolerable, but intentional deception works my nerve.

(smh)

[ChumpDumper]

You're joking. Anyone buying that argument?

Nixon and South Viet Nam, over just a short period, attacked 40,000 Viet Cong troops in Cambodia. We aren't talking about individial low to medium profile targets like Obomba is going after. This only lasted 14 months. Not a continuous process.

Largely buried in history? No it wasn't. I remember it, and the details are easily searched.

You are pretty bad with timelines, aren't you.

4/30/69, Nixon tells the public about bombing Cambodia. It was probably no secret when the first attack was under his watch.

The Slimes:

ON March 17, 1969, President Richard M. Nixon began a secret bombing campaign in Cambodia

They cited as historical authority a speech given May 28, 1970, by John R. Stevenson, then the top lawyer for the State Department, following the United States’ invasion of Cambodia.

They can't get the history correct. They are using May '70 for when the public was told, saying it was secret a year earlier, when Nixon told the world om March '69.

When will you people learn not to trust the NY Slimes?

OK, I see what happened here.

Rather than trust the NY "Slimes" op-ed written by a professor of law who specializes in the historical aspects of law during wartime, Wild Cobra decided to go all in citing the caption of a blog picture posted by a woman who is the webmaster of PaintingBallerina.com.

http://myblog.allthingsdigitalmarket...entennial.html

This, my friends, is the face of your pwnage:



Look upon her and despair.

Also, hit her up if you are looking for an apartment in the Big Apple.

http://nycapartmentskd.com/

Better than the Slimes real estate section tbh.

[Winehole23]

Good sleuthing, there.

WC: I'm sorry I said you were being deceptive. Turns out you were counting on an unreliable source.

Will you admit now that the NYT was right?

[SA210]

bias, self-certainty and tortured interpretation are more or less tolerable, but intentional deception works my nerve.

(smh)

Obama must be workin your nerves a lot then I see.

[Wild Cobra]

It does appear the date in my photo is a year off, however, it was public knowledge we were operating in Cambodia in 1969. I clearly remember this preceded the Apollo 11 moon landing.

If anyone has Nexus, maybe they can find the dates. That is if it recorded all news events with an easy to find index before digital storage.

Now I would like you to consider the speech the graphic is on. He does not say we started a campaign against Cambodia, but announces a major operation against the North Vietnam forces in Cambodia.



This is just Nixon's first speech on the subject I can find. It doesn't mean it was "secret" before the announcement.

[Wild Cobra]

Though I couldn't find the article itself, there is a 5/9/69 article by the NY Times referenced by other links, that addresses the bombing in Cambodia.

Secret, my ass...

[Winehole23]

Obama must be workin your nerves a lot then I see.

yeah, he does. you see my cite from the NYT upstream?

[Winehole23]

Though I couldn't find the article itself, there is a 5/9/69 article by the NY Times referenced by other links, that addresses the bombing in Cambodia.

Secret, my ass...

again, this was addressed in the article. the bombing was reported by journalists in 1969, but Nixon denied it (i.e., lied) for a year.

[Wild Cobra]

again, this was addressed in the article. the bombing was reported by journalists in 1969, but Nixon denied it (i.e., lied) for a year.

Can you show me a 1969 article where he denied it?

I remember much of 1969. The war, my uncle home on leave staying with us, playing chess with him and my father, the talks of war and the space missions...

[Winehole23]

lemme get this straight: you're denying that Nixon denied bombing Cambodia?

[TeyshaBlue]

omfg...only WC and boutons double down on re ed takes.

[ChumpDumper]

Though I couldn't find the article itself, there is a 5/9/69 article by the NY Times referenced by other links, that addresses the bombing in Cambodia.

Secret, my ass...

It was secret, then somebody found out about it.

May 1969
Nixon orders FBI wiretaps to track the sources of leaks revealing secret bombings of Cambodia.


http://www.nixonlibrary.gov/thetimes...index.php#1969

Every fact in the NYT op-ed was correct. Live with it.

the details are easily searched.

[Winehole23]

Texas related: http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.co...-gets-faa.html