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Oh I concede we are not a le team ... and if we are not a legit 8th seed if we pull of the SECOND 1/8 upset in 3 years on dem Spurs it will be glorious ...

I could enter my house justified then. We'd party are asses off, Killa. They'd run & tell the Ellis girl on me again, but, I wouldn't give a hoot nor a holler. I'd kiss her on the mouth and run like the ens.

[Killakobe81]

I could enter my house justified then. We'd party are asses off, Killa. They'd run & tell the Ellis girl on me again, but, I wouldn't give a hoot nor a holler. I'd kiss her on the mouth and run like the ens.

And the fear of that looms over this place. They know what happened here the last time we ousted dem Spurs ...
This time after all the mad ish that has been talked all year about our payroll and Kobe's leadership ... it would be a RECKONING.
Sure there is a chance we will lose... a good one actually, but I would take it.
I dont see us beating a young hungry OKC or MIA so there is no other "big game" I want to hunt.
I dont see us beating OKC/MIA and those young athletes 4 out of 7 ... but a Spur team led by aging vets just like the Lakers are just the type of team we can upset. OF course I would rather face Memphis or Denver those two have nothing but a WCF trip to show for all their talent ... and neither coach is as good as Pop.
But the "spoils" are not as good either. Beating a Spur team led by MVP candidate Parker, A resurgent Duncan, GINONOLI!!!!, DA FUTURE (KL) and the best coach in the biz?

Now that is the kind of win that bolsters the spirit ...we beat the Clips, Warriors or some other do nothing franchise it means little.

[Ace]

Spurs have a chance, but will they? I don't think they can beat Miami in a 7 game series but if healthy, they could be Miami's biggest threat.

I've said before they have personal to expose Miami's weaknesses. Still, I think Miami is simply the better team and would win the series in 6, possibly 7. Miami forces teams to match up with them and unless Splitter suddenly turns into Tim Duncan, Pop will go small.

Miami as the defending champs have added pieces to get better. LeBron has improved, Wade is healthy and Bosh is fitting into the offense better. Miami is nothing like 2011 team who couldn't play team ball and had no depth. The streak means nothing to me but all the talk about them peaking too soon is ridiculous.

[Killakobe81]

Spurs have a chance, but will they? I don't think they can beat Miami in a 7 game series but if healthy, they could be Miami's biggest threat.

I've said before they have personal to expose Miami's weaknesses. Still, I think Miami is simply the better team and would win the series in 6, possibly 7. Miami forces teams to match up with them and unless Splitter suddenly turns into Tim Duncan, Pop will go small.

Miami as the defending champs have added pieces to get better. LeBron has improved, Wade is healthy and Bosh is fitting into the offense better. Miami is nothing like 2011 team who couldn't play team ball and had no depth. The streak means nothing to me but all the talk about them peaking too soon is ridiculous.

Although the Spurs are strong where MiA is weakest (PG and Center) I think chalmers Cole and Birdman provide enough resistantce defensively to make that a moot point. I know it's cool to say when on a Spurs website, but come on ...they have no chance neither does the Lakers or Clippers or Memphis. OKC is the one team if Westbrook can play like he did that one game he went off in the Finals for another game or two and Durant can go off with Battier and Lebron defending then maybe we get a 6 game series. But no, barring injury no one is beating them.

[Cry Havoc]

Spurs have a chance, but will they? I don't think they can beat Miami in a 7 game series but if healthy, they could be Miami's biggest threat.

I've said before they have personal to expose Miami's weaknesses. Still, I think Miami is simply the better team and would win the series in 6, possibly 7. Miami forces teams to match up with them and unless Splitter suddenly turns into Tim Duncan, Pop will go small.

Miami as the defending champs have added pieces to get better. LeBron has improved, Wade is healthy and Bosh is fitting into the offense better. Miami is nothing like 2011 team who couldn't play team ball and had no depth. The streak means nothing to me but all the talk about them peaking too soon is ridiculous.

Reasonable post.

I honestly think the Spurs are the only team that moves the ball well enough to stymie Miami's defense. The Thunder would probably get swept by the Heat this year. It would be a boring Finals unless the officials wanted to push it an extra game or two.

Honestly though, I would be shocked if Miami loses more than 1 game in the entire EC playoffs, and I can't see anyone out West pushing them to 7 unless they were cold and the Spurs were really hot. The Thunderefs ISO ball is hopeless against Miami. Spurs would probably get a couple because we're tough to beat at home, but I can't see us winning a game in Miami.

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If the Spurs got there Stern would give his blessing and keep still.

I don't know if I could take it though. I'd be sick. Physically ill. I'd definitely hunt Ace down and build a shoestore in his ass. Same thing with Bene, just on sheer principle + he really needs one built.

[Johnny RIngo]

Miami has homecourt advantage throughout all of the playoffs. That combined with the fact that they'd have the two best players on the floor against any possible opponent makes them as unstoppable as it gets. Nobody from either conference has a chance unfortunately.

[Koolaid_Man]

Miami has homecourt advantage throughout all of the playoffs. That combined with the fact that they'd have the two best players on the floor against any possible opponent makes them as unstoppable as it gets. Nobody from either conference has a chance unfortunately.

Go back and watch the very last Laker vs Heat game...Kobe torched Wade mercilessly...sure Wade had 30 pts but they all came with Kobe on the bench..next they put Lebron on Kobe and Lebron in his prime couldn't stay in front of Kobe they had switch Lebron off for fear he was going to foul out...go back and rewind the game and then come back and talk to me...

Pau was out and Dwight was playing subpar...with our full compliment of players...with Dwight playing like he did in Orlando - Miami cannot beat us in a 7 game seriesPeriod

[Ace]

Go back and watch the very last Laker vs Heat game...Kobe torched Wade mercilessly...sure Wade had 30 pts but they all came with Kobe on the bench..next they put Lebron on Kobe and Lebron in his prime couldn't stay in front of Kobe they had switch Lebron off for fear he was going to foul out...go back and rewind the game and then come back and talk to me...

Pau was out and Dwight was playing subpar...with our full compliment of players...with Dwight playing like he did in Orlando - Miami cannot beat us in a 7 game seriesPeriod

Wade in both games against the Lakers out played Kobe, the first game he destroyed Kobe and shut his ass down. LeBron just toyed with everyone the Lakers threw at him. Its moot however considering the Lakers most likely won't see the second round much less the WCFs.

[Ace]

Although the Spurs are strong where MiA is weakest (PG and Center) I think chalmers Cole and Birdman provide enough resistantce defensively to make that a moot point. I know it's cool to say when on a Spurs website, but come on ...they have no chance neither does the Lakers or Clippers or Memphis. OKC is the one team if Westbrook can play like he did that one game he went off in the Finals for another game or two and Durant can go off with Battier and Lebron defending then maybe we get a 6 game series. But no, barring injury no one is beating them.

Spurs chances rely on Duncan and his ability to play at a high level. Thats a lot to ask out of him at his age but if delivers, Miami could have their hands full.

[Koolaid_Man]

Wade in both games against the Lakers out played Kobe, the first game he destroyed Kobe and shut his ass down. LeBron just toyed with everyone the Lakers threw at him. Its moot however considering the Lakers most likely won't see the second round much less the WCFs.

actually Like I said..Wade scores his points with Kobe on the bench...Lebron pretty much nuts up everytime he has to guard Kobe one on one or when Kobe is defending him one on one...Lebron has no heart...he gets scared when Kobe challenges him man to man...he prefers his teammates set him a screen on Kobe so that he can drive to the basket...I personally don't respect that...when a guy challenges you to your face you're supposed to go at him...your ass can pop off at the mouth all day but I have the tape:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnxXYsRrWlw

Lebron, Wade, Allen, Battier, Chalmers...they have the bodies to run at Kobe and they all end up getting the business...

[Seventyniner]

Spurs chances rely on Duncan and his ability to play at a high level. Thats a lot to ask out of him at his age but if delivers, Miami could have their hands full.

Theoretically, the Spurs have more upside than other top teams because Pop can up Duncan and Ginobili's minutes in the playoffs significantly. It's easier to add 6 MPG to Duncan (30 to 36) than LeBron (39 to 45). , Tony Parker is #61 in MPG this year at a hair under 33 and he leads the Spurs.

Then again, this has been true for several years and doesn't seem to have helped.

[Ace]

Theoretically, the Spurs have more upside than other top teams because Pop can up Duncan and Ginobili's minutes in the playoffs significantly. It's easier to add 6 MPG to Duncan (30 to 36) than LeBron (39 to 45). , Tony Parker is #61 in MPG this year at a hair under 33 and he leads the Spurs.

Then again, this has been true for several years and doesn't seem to have helped.

Both players are on the tail end of their careers and haven't played big minutes all year. Simply upping their minutes and they will be out of gas in no time.

[Ace]

actually Like I said..Wade scores his points with Kobe on the bench...Lebron pretty much nuts up everytime he has to guard Kobe one on one or when Kobe is defending him one on one...Lebron has no heart...he gets scared when Kobe challenges him man to man...he prefers his teammates set him a screen on Kobe so that he can drive to the basket...I personally don't respect that...when a guy challenges you to your face you're supposed to go at him...your ass can pop off at the mouth all day but I have the tape:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnxXYsRrWlw

Lebron, Wade, Allen, Battier, Chalmers...they have the bodies to run at Kobe and they all end up getting the business...

Your tape isn't imbedded but here. Wade dropping 16 in the 4th, clearly while Kobe tries to guard him.

[Seventyniner]

Both players are on the tail end of their careers and haven't played big minutes all year. Simply upping their minutes and they will be out of gas in no time.

Using my argument for last season, I'd be half right (Duncan) and half wrong (Ginobili), though I'd be wrong about Parker too, so 1 out of 3 isn't good for me.

Player	2013 RS PER	2013 RS MPG	2012 PO PER	2012 PO MPG	2012 RS PER	2012 RS MPG
Duncan	24.40	29.8	22.97	33.1	22.60	28.2
Parker	24.32	33.0	19.48	36.1	22.04	32.1
Ginobili	20.41	23.5	17.08	27.9	24.18	23.3

Basically, Ginobili and Parker had significant dropoffs in the playoffs with increased minutes, while Duncan was about the same. I'd consider 22.60 to 22.97 PER as upping his game because it's against harder opponents and 22.60 was already an elite level.

[Koolaid_Man]

Your tape isn't imbedded but here. Wade dropping 16 in the 4th, clearly while Kobe tries to guard him.

hey dip ...do you realize you embedded a video that PROVES MY POINT ....

a couple of things either (1) you didn't bother to look at the vid or (2) You don't know the difference between Kobe and Meeks / Blake...

Listen not one time in your vid did Wade score over Kobe 1 on 1...as I previously mentioned pretty much 98% of his points came when Kobe was either on the bench...the few jumpers he did hit when Kobe was on the court was Wade coming off of screens that Bosh set...it's the same thing Bosh does for Bron...it's the same thing Bosh tried to do during the ASG but it failed during the ASG and Lebron was forced to finally play Kobe straight up..but he was looking at Bosh for his pick or screen so that he find a way to score on Kobe...again Lebron and Wade cannot let me repeat CANNOT play or defend Kobe 1 on 1 effectively...sure for maybe a play or 2 but they cannot guard Kobe the way he can and does guard them. Your video does nothing but prove my point....

Now go back to the vid I linked (if you care to get ass wrecked again) notice in the vid that Kobe calls for the iso on Lebron and Wade and calls of any screens or picks..this is what I call man to man...Lebron and Wade are scared to play Kobe 1 on 1...almost everytime they do it ends badly for them...sure they've done it successfully a time or two but these s cannot stay in front of a 35 yr old Kobe...imagine what Kobe would have done to them in his prime...instead he was forced to do it to Duncan since Duncan was the only fool standing there.

[Koolaid_Man]

Ace get your punk ass in here..you gonna own this lie you tried to slide in here on us...I'll tack and staple it to your ass myself

[Ace]

Wade outplayed Kobe twice this year and shut his ass down to a tune of 8-25 (on his home court). As it stands, Kobe's Lakers are one the teams nobody mentions in the Heat's 22 (3) game win streak.

[Koolaid_Man]

Wade outplayed Kobe twice this year and shut his ass down to a tune of 8-25 (on his home court). As it stands, Kobe's Lakers are one the teams nobody mentions in the Heat's 22 (3) game win streak.

that's not owning a lie you tried to sell...listen Ace just know who you ing with before you post trying to clown Kool...you'll lose 98% of the time...

Let's toast to the Heat losing tonight

[Killakobe81]

Wade outplayed Kobe twice this year and shut his ass down to a tune of 8-25 (on his home court). As it stands, Kobe's Lakers are one the teams nobody mentions in the Heat's 22 (3) game win streak.

I have not seen a Heat game in years where Wade guarded Kobe exclusively, but try again. Wade can not guard Kobe ... Kobe cant stop wade 1 on 1 either but he definitely plays Wade better than teh other way around the foul in the aSG is positive proof ... he was getting beat up so he hacked like a .

Doesnt matter though, Heat won both games this year but Lebron was the main reason ...

[Ace]

I have not seen a Heat game in years where Wade guarded Kobe exclusively, but try again. Wade can not guard Kobe ... Kobe cant stop wade 1 on 1 either but he definitely plays Wade better than teh other way around the foul in the aSG is positive proof ... he was getting beat up so he hacked like a .

Doesnt matter though, Heat won both games this year but Lebron was the main reason ...

Having fun the monkey but got bored when he started the long paragraphs. I can't pretend to read THAT much.

[lefty]

Only Heat fan and realists allowed in here.
Heat winning this ... other team's hopes are simply a mirage ...

[spurraider21]

It's so easy to lose it enroute to winning it.

San Antonio will not be an easy out.

thread with the goods

[100%duncan]

So much for being a realist Killa

[DMC]

It ain't a ring until the fat sing