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RJ just had this mentally draining affect.. the team could go 30-52 without RJ and it would still be more fun than having that get out there and choking during the playoffs and costing the Spurs a series.
Jack gives us street cred.
RJ just had this mentally draining affect.. the team could go 30-52 without RJ and it would still be more fun than having that get out there and choking during the playoffs and costing the Spurs a series.
Richard Jefferson is so good that even POP said he will resign if the Spurs didn't win the championship.
Except having Tim Duncan guarantees 50 wins. That said RJ's biggest problem was that 1. he was overpaid and 2. couldn't pull his own weight in crunch time.
I agree but I don't know Bonner personally so I WILL NOT MISS him at all when he is gone from the SPURS LOL, just want him gone like RJ. I remember when his contract was up and I thought that was the end of him here! Then they resign Bonner and I nearly cried lol. though don't miss him at all, he sucked.
Too bad he did not do that more often.Yeah, then miss the damn threes in the playoffs like we or he did when he was here. I would not take that 40% crap back for a thing! It was fools gold for later on folding. Jax played his butt off last year in the WCF, Jefferson would have been on the damn bench and the team would have been blown out in game 6 from the get go.
Jackson is dead last on the team in: PER, TS%, eFG%, ORtg, OWS, WS/48. . .and even in defensive rating, he's tied for 11th, above only Diaw, Bonner, and the team's point guards. Last year he was only above the scrubs in most of those same categories.
RJ's defense may suck, but at least he actually hits his open shots. The difference between RJ's TS% last year and Jackson's this year is literally almost 100 points (88).
I don't miss RJ, but I sure as am not happy with his replacement; Jackson. Fortunately, we traded for the pick to get Kawhi Leonard who is much better than both players right now, and is improving to possibly be better than either of those guys ever were.
Jax had a much better playoffs than RJ ever had with the exception of a couple of games in '10.
??? Jack isn't the RJ replacement. Our new starting SF is Kawhi. Jack's purpose in the trade was to reduce payroll down the line. ANYTHING he brings on the court is a bonus. We traded a LATE first round pick for a player and a reduction of payroll on the order of $11M next season. Jack got us that.
Jax also been going through some serious personal stuff
Sjax is an intangible upgrade but goddammit please no more technicals in the playoffs
The biggest part of the trade is that Jackson's contract is off the books 1-year earlier meaning the Spurs have some cap space after this season.
You can hate RJ, but don't ing lie...
I only thank RJ for his contribution in Game 2 against the Mavericks, but he was pretty useless other than that.
It's obvious, but I don't miss him. If he was still here, Kawhi will still be coming off the bench and wouldn't have developed his game as much as he has now.
I also don't think the Spurs finish 1st last year and even reach the WCF with Jefferson. Before the trade, they were behind OKC in the standings which means they may have ended up with the 2 seed and been bounced by the Lakers in the 2nd round.
I'm a big Jack defender, but he sucks this year. Still, that is much better than having RJ start every game just for the sake of making him feel better about his confidence.
Spurs wouldn't have made it to the WCF with Jefferson on the roster, tbh.
And last year he shot 53% from 2 and 60% from 3 during the playoffs. I don't think *any* other Spur shot that well, including the big 3.
Yet we're again a 50+ wins team, #1 in the West without the extra meaningless regular season 100 pts.
What people like you skip over is the fact that Pop wouldn't start Kawhi to try not to hurt RJ's feelings. That was automatically solved when Jack came in and embraced the bench role.
Jack is a major part of Kawhi seeing his role evolved this season.
So you don't think they beat Utah or Clipps? Or you don't think we get the first seed and play either of those teams and get a tougher road?
28-13 before the trade, 22-3 after the trade. Without the trade, they likely get the 2 seed and have to go through the Mavs and the Lakers to get to the WCF.
Going by that Kawhi would have started at SF in any case. So then it becomes RJ on the bench vs SJ on the bench. Of course the payroll reason trumps everything, but started this thread to compare on court output from RJ & SJ.
I think Diaw was a huge part of this as well. So its not as cut and dry to credit SJ for the 22-3 un.
They were the 2nd seed before the Jefferson trade. It was the Jack trade + Diaw acquisition and the team raising their confidence that led to the 10 game winning streak in the regular season that gave them the 1st seed.
It may have been possible that they make the WCF considering how weak the West was last year outside of the Thunder and Spurs. I'm not sure they would have taken the Lakers out with Jefferson on the team. Dallas always plays them tough too so the Spurs could have struggled greatly against them.
I didn't do that. I credited the lack of RJ. Adding Diaw would still have had value, but subtracting RJ was the indispensable factor. Even without adding Jack, the trade resulted in Leonard replacing RJ in the starting lineup (as ElNono pointed out.)
He should retire.
Not even slightly.
Exactly, i don't i agree with that. The move to start Leonard was independent of RJ vs SJ, he just needed a year that's all. I really doubt that he would have trouble dislodging RJ from the starting spot. Or that pop would have continued to start RJ after Leonard had a year in the system.
proof is in the pudding. WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS. that alone gives jax alot of room to mess up.
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