Swift to the Rockets?

[ChumpDumper]

If the Grizz just let him walk, they get the payroll relief now.

And have nothing to show for it. You really think West and the FO is content with nothing to show for a former #3 that alot of teams want?

[Extra Stout]

I agree with you, it is that if it were me, I would go to SA for the 5 million and become famous while winning championships every year.

I don't think the Spurs want to touch Swift with a ten-foot pole. He doesn't fit into anything they are trying to do.

If the Rockets get Swift, at best they might get a more motivated version of Kelvin Cato. But that's based upon hope, not upon the character traits of Stromile Swift. There's a reason Jerry West is so eager for him to leave.

Carroll Dawson has been burned too often by bad contracts to offer $8 million a year to Stromile Swift. He's taking a poor risk out of desperation to offer him the MLE, much less $8 mil a year.

[Jimcs50]

What did Swift average last season anyways?

10 pts and 4.6 rebs in limited minutes

[ChumpDumper]

What did Swift average last season anyways?

Not enough to justify what he wants.

[Jimcs50]

Not enough to justify what he wants.

10 pts on 8 shot attempts is not too shabby....better than most.

[1Parker1]

10 pts on 8 shot attempts is not too shabby....better than most.

Yea, but 5-6 million sounds about right for that....

[ChumpDumper]

Was he injured during the playoffs? Seems he missed an opportunity to impress in a series custom made for his skills.

[Extra Stout]

And have nothing to show for it. You really think West and the FO is content with nothing to show for a former #3 that alot of teams want?

YES.

Jerry West has done far too much in the NBA to have to cover for draft mistakes in order to stroke his own ego.

If some team wants him bad enough to hand Memphis some assets, then they'll gladly accept them. But Memphis is NOT going to take back a dead-weight contract just to get "something."

A lot of teams want Stromile Swift because a lot of GM's are less than one-third as intelligent as Jerry West is.

[Jimcs50]

Yea, but 5-6 million sounds about right for that....

extrapolate that 10 pts in 21 mins to a starter's minutes and he would be a 17pt scorer with a good FG %....

There are a lot of players in the NBA who make more than 5 million without that kind of production.

[1Parker1]

extrapolate that 10 pts in 21 mins to a starter's minutes and he would be a 17pt scorer with a good FG %....

There are a lot of players in the NBA who make more than 5 million without that kind of production.

Who's to say he would be that productive in extensive minutes? It's not like he's a proven 17ppg game player...

[Extra Stout]

10 pts on 8 shot attempts is not too shabby....better than most.

You're just looking at stats. Swift's entire offensive arsenal is dunks and putbacks. He's as raw as he was the day he came out of LSU.

With Swift, you get pretty good energy and athleticism. His athleticism covers for his lack of basketball skills. He rebounds well, he's strong around the rim, and he gets some blocks even though his defensive instincts aren't that great.

On offense, he gives you nothing except dunks and putbacks. Put him on the Rockets, and teams can double down on Yao with impunity because Swift is no threat even if left open 8 feet from the hoop.

Motivation could be an issue with Swift once he gets paid. He's not exactly reknowned for his work ethic -- he hasn't improved noticeably since his second year in the league. If the Rockets overpay him, it could be Kelvin Cato all over again.

[Jimcs50]

Was he injured during the playoffs? Seems he missed an opportunity to impress in a series custom made for his skills.

He only played 48 total mins and did not play in game 2 because of an injury...he really did not do much of anything in the playoffs.

[Jimcs50]

Who's to say he would be that productive in extensive minutes? It's not like he's a proven 17ppg game player...

He would not get any more mins in SA, but he can develope into a Pop type of player and in the meantime, he can play solid D, be the shot blocking presense in the paint and rebound in the few mins that he can play.

[Extra Stout]

He would not get any more mins in SA, but he can develope into a Pop type of player and in the meantime, he can play solid D, be the shot blocking presense in the paint and rebound in the few mins that he can play.

Clearly you've never watched him play.

[Jimcs50]

I am just trowing his name out there, I am not advocating that we get him, but I think he has potential. I would rather have Jefferson or Antoine Wright.

[1Parker1]

He would not get any more mins in SA, but he can develope into a Pop type of player and in the meantime, he can play solid D, be the shot blocking presense in the paint and rebound in the few mins that he can play.

Oh I didn't realize you were talking about him being a Spur. I was thinking him as a Rocket.......

[TheTruth]

Jerry West has done far too much in the NBA to have to cover for draft mistakes in order to stroke his own ego.

wasn't even his draft mistake. he was drafte before west got there.

[Jimcs50]

Clearly you've never watched him play.

I have seen his defense and it is good...

[Extra Stout]

I am just trowing his name out there, I am not advocating that we get him, but I think he has potential. I would rather have Jefferson or Antoine Wright.

In physics, potential is unrealized work.

That's an apt definition in the case of Swift.

[Extra Stout]

I have seen his defense and it is good...

And yet despite his good defense, he can't get more than 20 minutes a game on the floor, and Memphis is eager to jettison him in favor of Brian Cardinal.

His defense is based upon athleticism, not fundamentals.

Houston is interested in him for his rebounding, since their frontline is soft despite having a 7'5" center who's allegedly supposed to be some kind of superstar.

There's some offensive rebounding in there, too. He gets a lot of his points that way.

[Jimcs50]

His defense is based upon athleticism, not fundamentals.

If Pop can get Big Dog to play fundamental D, don't you think Swift can learn?

[Extra Stout]

If Pop can get Big Dog to play fundamental D, don't you think Swift can learn?

Big Dog was willing to try -- after all, if he didn't do as Pop asked, the Spurs could just send him back home.

It's a whole different ballgame when you have a youngster that has a brand-new huge guaranteed contract. If he wants to dog it, he still gets paaiiiiiiid.

What you have in Swift is a guy that has not worked to improve his game in a long time. The Spurs don't look for players like that.

[Jimcs50]

What you have in Swift is a guy that has not worked to improve his game in a long time. The Spurs don't look for players like that.

Well, you obviously know Swift more than anyone else, so I will drop the subject.

I still want Jefferson or Antoine.

[Jules Winnfield]

Memphis can just offer 6 million and a cup of coffee and they will top Houston's only offer possibility.

Mmmm! Goddamn, Jerry West! This is some serious gourmet ! Usually, me and Swift would be happy with some freeze-dried Taster's Choice, but he springs this serious GOURMET on us! What flavor is this?

[CalsonicKansei]

NBA Live 2001 Stromile Swift 59 overall (stats).