Bruno just came in with a b52 and carpet truthed bombed the out of manufan
Most 3 pointers in Spurs history:
1. 190 Chuck Person 1995-96
2. 172 Chuck Person 1994-95
3. 166 Roger Mason 2008-09
4. 161 Sean Elliott 1995-96
5. 160 Danny Green This year
6. 156 Manu Ginobili 2007-08
And if I'm not mistaken 1995-1997 the line was only 22 feet.
Bruno just came in with a b52 and carpet truthed bombed the out of manufan
I just actually pointed that out on the Manu thread when looking at the top 5 man combos for the Spurs this season. While that lineup has been beyond ridiculously good, they just can't all play 48 mins.
And once you take one guy out, all the other 5 man combos are nowhere near as good.
Roger mason
Seriously, does nobody remember both the Utah and LA Clippers series' last year? Danny was solid in those games.
On another note though, ya'll crazy to think that Danny is better than Ginobili. Manu is in a serious slump, but you can't just erase all of his talent like it never happened. For the moment, Danny is playing better, yes. But long-term, Ginobili is the guy that'll make opponents cringe and hurt in the clutch.
Oh my god, shut up. God why are so many people on here such pussies.
That's in one season if I'm not mistaken Manu is 1st ALL TIME in spurs history with most 3pointers made
Come on, he is just trolling. It's in response to the Leonard surpassing Manu last week. There is no way Green is better than Leonard or Manu.
No.
Really hope he can get his together and stop ing throwing the ball away every other possession.
No. Danny Green is just a shooter, that's all he does good on offense. Also he must be wide open so he can make a shot. He can't dribble, isn't a good passer, can't create his own shot (he did improve in this) and can't finish around the rim on set defense or on a fast break. If Manu was trained just to knock down some open threes I would say he'd do just as good as Danny. But right now Manu must do pretty much everything on offense when there is no real PG around him. He must run Pick n' roles, he must penetrate, must find wide open guys, draw fouls and knock some shots. I think Manu spends like 70% more energy on offense than Danny. I still like Green a lot, at least he does his job good and also plays solid defense, but better than Manu, I don't think so. Yea, Manu is in a slump and he gets me mad every time when he makes a stupid play, but in the playoffs I rather have Manu on the court than Danny.
No, Green is not a better player than Ginobili. (Neither is Leonard, by the way.)
But Green does do his job better than anyone on the team would.
I think that takes like this are unfounded. Ginobili is just not the floor-spreader than Green is. He's a much better creator for sure, and that's one of the many reasons why he's a better player. But he can't do Green's job better than Green can. Ginobili's also a much more erratic defender. Green gets beat because of mental lapses; Ginobili gets beat due to physical limitations. Those limitations lead to him being a more desperate defender, which can result in some great players but also in some horrible fouls or mistakes.
To me, this is the most important thing people need to realize about Ginobili's aging: Green's not starting because Ginobili's skill is needed on the bench; he's starting because he's a better fit with the starting unit than Ginobili is -- hands down, point blank. If Pop had two Ginobili's and one Green, Danny would still start. Benching Green for Manu's sake would hurt Green and the Spurs.
Many people are confusing life-long achievement with current version. MJ is the GOAT for NBA but there were many players better than his Wizards version.
And other people are confusing a slump with being washed up...and a really good game with consistent production that overshadows a former All-Star.
Funny how it's Danny Green that is the benefactor this time. Wasn't it just last season that people were saying he was more Bonner than Horry in the playoffs? Now hes our 4th best player? No, I attest that people are just riding the hot stock of the moment.
No.
I'm not arguing for Green-better-than-Manu. I just point out that those people who are arguing for that do not necessarily forget/depreciate how good Manu was.
In terms of my personal view, it has been Kawhi is the 3rd best player and he has to be that role for the Spurs to be successful.
The current answer is a qualified yes. No need to get bent out of shape about it. Plenty of time for it to change.
These one trick Ponnies usually dissapear against planning in the PO. That´s why they dissappeared last year.
I think it's time we address the myth that Danny Green had a horrible playoff run last year.
He began the post-season with a solid series against the Jazz.
Jazz Points Rebounds Assists Field Goal Percentage* Steals Blocks Turnovers Plus-Minus (Total) PF Minutes Average 8.5 4 1 0.393742 0.5 1 1 52 1.75 24.5 Per36 12.4898 5.877551 1.469388 0.393742 0.734694 1.469388 1.469388 52 2.571429 36
He followed that up with an outstanding series against the Clippers.
Clippers Points Rebounds Assists Field Goal Percentage* Steals Blocks Turnovers Plus-Minus (Total) PF Minutes Average 12.25 4 1.5 0.566919 0.75 0.75 1.5 57 2.75 25.25 Per36 17.46535 5.70297 2.138614 0.566919 1.069307 1.069307 2.138614 57 3.920792 36
And that doesn't even include his defense on Paul. Green was arguably the MVP of that series.
He actually didn't do that badly against the Thunder for the first four games.
Thunder Points Rebounds Assists Field Goal Percentage* Steals Blocks Turnovers Plus-Minus (Total) PF Minutes Average 5 3 1 0.266667 0.5 0.75 1 7 1.25 21 Per36 8.571429 5.142857 1.714286 0.266667 0.857143 1.285714 1.714286 7 2.142857 36
Compare that two Ginobili's last four games (I am of the mind that Ginobili is just slumping right now).
Ginobili Points Rebounds Assists Field Goal Percentage* Steals Blocks Turnovers Plus-Minus (Total) PF Minutes Average 8.25 3.25 4 0.2865 1.25 0.5 3.25 -20 2.25 27.5 Per36 10.8 4.254545 5.236364 0.2865 1.636364 0.654545 4.254545 -20 2.945455 36
It just seems clear to me that Green had a bad four-game stretch, and Pop panicked and pulled him. He definitely wasn't the player he had been in the Clippers series, but he his play wasn't that bad. Green played for four minutes in each of the next two games, but he failed to score a point.
* Not his true average FG%. That's just the averages of all his FG%s from the series. I was too lazy go back and look up the FGM and FGA to get the real stat.
Spurs need both of them to play well. That's pretty much it. If they do, Spurs might have a fifth.
Green is much more of an NBA player than a 3 & D specialists. Manu wouldn't be nearly as good as good in that role. Manu is a scorer not a elite 3 point shooter. Green is hitting 42% of his 3's thats roughly 7% better than the league average.
He has become one of the best shooters in the NBA, but he's virtually useless when he isn't playing with Parker and Duncan, tbh..
If Ginobili's role was relegated to spot-up shooter, he would have even better success, tbh..
Good post. Men Lie , Women Lie, Numbers Don't.
In two weeks, If Manu is still struggling. i guarantee someone is gonna mention benching Manu for Neal.
Green is a role player, while Manu is supposed to be a star. Manu has to fill many roles on the team including but not limited to shooting guard, small forward, backup pg, closer and bench sparkplug. Green right now just has to be a spot up shooting guard and good on defense.
Statistically, there are only 3 rotation wings that create less offense than Danny Green this season, tbh: Keith Bogans, Kyle Korver and Shane Battier..
Ginobili's peak 3-point shooting is around 40% IIRC..he's a great shooter..if his role the last few years was relegated to spot-up shooter that did not have to create any offense or drive the lane, he could easily fill Green's role..
Danny Green was a completely irrelevant player prior to joining the Spurs..anybody that thinks Manu couldn't fit the role of a spot-up shooter that has little responsibility at creating offense is an imbecile, tbh..
I'm not a Manu jocker either, I criticize him all the time, tbh..he's playing horribly and it's sad to watch him play basketball, at the moment..
As for Danny Green in last year's playoffs, he benefited greatly from poor compe ion, as did the Spurs as a whole, tbh..
Green had success against 2 of the 3 worst defensive teams in the entire playoffs, last year..his defensive success was against a hobbled Chris Paul, too..
The Spurs had 1 true test during last year's playoffs, and Green failed miserably, tbh..his performance against 2 of the worst playoff teams(considering Paul was limited) in recent West history is irrelevant, tbh..
Green's role is simple..make open 3s and play decent defense..he can't dribble a ball, he can't pass, he can't create his own offense, he can't score consistently inside the 3-point line..I appreciate his role in the Spurs offense, he's an essential cog, similar to guys like Mike Dunleavy, tbh, but his level of responsibility is vastly different than Ginobili's..
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