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Green will snap out of it, he's a streaky player and has been in a lull for awhile. Not sure I trust him in big games though.
That is waiting to be seen.
Green will snap out of it, he's a streaky player and has been in a lull for awhile. Not sure I trust him in big games though.
Pop is trolling the Lakers by putting Blair on the floor.
i know right hehehe
Remember that Manu always tends to be optimistic, actually over-optimistic when it comes to the assessment of his physical status. He's just an enthusiastic guy. He's producing great right now with the minutes he's getting, and the Spurs are winning: why play him more? If the Spurs are serious about a deep playoff run they need a healthy and rested Manu. No need to burn him with 30mpg in the first round.
de-activate Green
activate TMac
do this Pop
This. Danny's sharpshooting isn't coming into play in this series, since the Lakers D isn't really swarming anybody. When Parker/Manu are getting penetration, the Lakers perimeter guys aren't really collapsing on the ball since they're trusting Dwight/Pau to stop the ball. They're staying home on shooters, for the most part. And they aren't really doubling in the post. They're letting Dwight man up on Timmy and aren't sending help.
Bonner has been getting looks because he's being guarded by Pau/Dwight who obviously want to be around the paint. Manu is getting looks off the dribble, usually just pulling up off a pick and roll. Green's good team defense/rotation isn't really coming into play when the Lakers are just playing simple inside-out ball. Green will be much more important in future series against Denver/GS/Clippers
If we have key player totally overwhelmed its toast time. He was blown away by a man who can barely walk.
If Manu was not playing so effectively in limited minutes, Danny Green would not be a key player, he would be a shadow to take up minutes while not screwing up. He has yet to even reach shadow level. Ok, so you can't find you shot, you can't dribble or pass, could we have a little D? Apparently not...
He may be a key player. If this is true we are winning without a key. So I am at a loss as to what key means. Definitely not essential. I expect he will get much better as he has hit the bottom.
Green is filling minutes in an extremely poor fashion.
This seems reasonable. Can we get a little D on a crippled man?
Can we get the ball past half court, without the ref having to wave us on? A rhetorical , Nope!
Mental melting is underway. For this team, mental mistakes while playing in a haze is unacceptable. Green has made zero adjustments to fit into LA style.
I really wonder why Danny didn't dribble the ball up court. Is he that scared of dribbling the ball? or was it just a mental mistake. Either way, that really pissed me off.
No it remains to be seen. They've only played 2 PO games. I don't even like Green, but that's a stupid thing to say. A lot of things remain to be seen by a lot of players.
Green is always stuck in between helping and guarding his man. Problem is he does neither. Constantly giving his man open 3s. Just stay on your man!! We don't need your "help" defense.
i agree, green is in a slump and just needs to play through it. i'm confident he'll get it together at some point. burying him on the bench would just eff with his head even more.
baynes over blair 4 life. pop has a stack of "blair's a major defensive liability" memo's he's been ignoring since preseason. maybe he'll finally wake up. count it as a blessing of the diaw injury.
speaking of diaw injury blessings. the temperature gauge player. bonner is hot hot hot right now. this team has me very excited. i'm confident they'll take a game in la.
I was yelling at Mr. Green to dribble the ball across the timeline, and I know 1% of what he does about basketball. He's my boy and all, but dayum.... I hope he sees minutes in L.A., I want him to have a monster game on the road to build confidence.
I wouldn't be opposed to trying De Colo at the 2.
And you want Neal in the starting lineup....no to that . Blair can be effective as a post defender on occasion. Especially if they face up (he has quick hands and can force turnovers.
I said in there playoffs, meaning last years run as well where Green dissapeared. Bringing up last year with a deep run is not stuipd, he didn't perform well and it's an indication being two games this year he sucked that he might not have it in the playoffs. Until he has a few games or a series where he is good he sucks to me in the playoffs. I agree on the other players though.
Green isn't in a slump.... this is who he is. He's always been this way, just when his shots aren't falling, and the games actually matter, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Green is horrible.
"When his shots aren't falling." Means he's in a slump. When his shots are falling, he's not horrible at all. He even made as many good plays as bad last night despite the poor shooting.
I don't know where you get the idea that Green hasn't shown up in important games before. You apparently didn't see him close out the Clippers last year as one of the most important players. I know it's en vogue here to pretend like the only games that matter are the ones that the Spurs end up losing, but the Spurs would not have swept Los Angeles with out Green's offense in game three and defense in game four. We can talk about Green in general not being as good this season as he was last, but by no means are bad playoff performances the norm for him.
Green needs to fight his way out of his slump. It's clearly all mental as the last play of the game demonstrates. Pop can't just put TM in the rotation at this point of the season. Green is needed and for those who think otherwise, get real. Every team has a set rotation and to disrupt it effects the whole game plan. I'm not saying TMac won't play at all but Green isn't going to be benched. Maybe less minutes, but not benched. And the less minutes, the less confidence he will have.
With Blair I totally agree. Danny Green is still needed for secondary bench scoring for his three point streakiness. I still like Danny very much. He's a nice complimentary player.
this is the same thing ppl were saying about bonner during all those playoff slumps. It could be a slump but it is alarming when he is getting ted on the defensive end by Steve epidural Nash
Nah, he's not slumping, that's the kind of player he is. I've been saying it last year and this year. That's why a lot of times during the year, our first play was always to find an open 3 for Green. If he comes out of the gate and hits, keep giving him shots. If he comes out of the gate and misses a couple, just take him out and sit his ass on the bench for the rest of the game, because he's gonna be worthless. He can't drive, dribble, finish, his midrange is cringe worthy. I watch every game, literally every game, this is what Danny Verde is.
and like always pointed out, he's constantly "trying" to close out on open shooters cause he's sagging off to "help" double... but he rarely accomplishes anything but being caught in the middle. He has good games, but to say he's slumping is to say he's somewhat of a consistent player to begin with, and that's just not the case. It's becoming obvious that he mentally struggles at this point in the season as well, so that really takes the slump factor out.
I'm not rooting against the guy, trust me, I hope he can throw a run of the good Danny in for us the rest of the way
On top of his shooting slump, Green is having to assume more SF duties (as has been mentioned before), so it may take awhile for him to adjust. He's not a star or anything, so it may take a few games.
Green will be fine, this series just isn't a good matchup for him. The gameplan is to double bigs when they get the ball from different positions on the court, so it makes sense that he will be caught having to close out on shooters more than usual if they have him playing rover in the lane. If you want to make the case that we shouldn't be doubling so much, fine, but I think it's worked to keep Gasol and Howard out of their comfort zone, and you can't blame Green for being out of position if the gameplan is for him to be helping more than he usually would. He made a few lapses on D last night, but he's a solid individual defender and he will be a key if we play the Clippers or the Thunder going forward.
His shooting hasn't been great but it hasn't been terrible, he's just not getting many open looks in our halfcourt sets. This tends to happen when teams feel that their wings don't have to help down low on our bigs, which is the case with Gasol/Howard clogging up the lane. If he were getting open looks and missing it would be different, but right now his presence as a shooter is giving us spacing and is allowing Tim/Tiago to go 1on1 on offense.
Also I fail to see how Ginobili starting would be a better option. A player like Green is useless in the 2nd unit because his individual defense will be wasted on reserves and on offense he is incapable of creating looks for himself or others. Manu's role is perfectly defined right now and works incredibly if the shooters on the bench are clicking: he closes the first, starts the 2nd, closes the 2nd, closes the 3rd, and finishes the game. All the announcer's talk about the Spurs closing out quarters well would vanish were Neal/Green/McGrady/whoever to be our backup SG.
Players like Green thrive on chaotic, up-tempo, high-energy games. This is precisely why his mental mistakes on defense seldom come at the beginning of the shot clock, but by the 2nd or 3rd wrinkle of the opposing offense he is prone to make errors. It's also why most of his best scoring nights come against bad defensive teams, because his open looks come as a result of execution on offense and wing defenders helping on our bigs or getting lost trying to shade towards Tony. I predict that he will have a very good series against whoever we play in round 2.
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