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    Now you're making excuses. Trying too hard again.
    You really think I thought nobody here knew what you knew? I really did forget that Denver won a playoff game with Manning. Yep....DUH!!!!!!!!!!

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    If Tebow were black, Moon wouldn't have said this. That what annoys me.
    u serious??? tebow is horrible, no way around it. moon was just keepin' it real. unlike tebow, cam newton actually has a bright future in the nfl.

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    You do understand that I'm not just talking about football. It's a general unspoken code among them. Ask anyone with a black person in any type supervisory role where they work and they will tell you the same thing.

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    You really believe that? So tell me why do all this white owners/coachs draft all those black players ahead of white ones? Why isn't Alex Smith still starting for the Niners?
    Man, I don't even get what you're trying to say here.

    He said that black people support their own more than they should at times. I can say from experience that he's right. You respond by showing white people who support black people. How does that address what he said at all?

    If anything, he's saying blacks support blacks, and you're saying whites support money. I'm pretty sure both of those views can coexist just fine.

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    You really think I thought nobody here knew what you knew? I really did forget that Denver won a playoff game with Manning. Yep....DUH!!!!!!!!!!
    They didn't win a playoff game, they had a first round bye, like the top two teams in every conference get every year.

    Do you watch football at all?

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    u serious??? tebow is horrible, no way around it. moon was just keepin' it real. unlike tebow, cam newton actually has a bright future in the nfl.
    Moon wouldn't have said anything if Tebow were black. Moon's right in his analysis; he just wouldn't told the media that if Tebow weren't a white monkeyballer, for lack of a better term.

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    They didn't win a playoff game, they had a first round bye, like the top two teams in every conference get every year.

    Do you watch football at all?
    That's it and thank you.

    So it's Tim Tebow did win a playoff game for Denver while Manning couldn't.

    I knew something was wacked. Not being a Denver fan ya understand.

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    That's it and thank you.

    So it's Tim Tebow did win a playoff game for Denver while Manning couldn't.

    I knew something was wacked.
    So now you're moving the goal posts after making two different things up.

    You must be foaming at the mouth right now.

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    So now you're moving the goal posts after making two different things up.

    You must be foaming at the mouth right now.
    No not at all.

    I was just thinking how Tebow beat the Steelers while Manning lost. So it's Tim Tebow won playoff games for Denver, Peyton Manning lost playoff games for Denver so it's...

    Tebow 1-1
    Manning 0-1

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    Moon wouldn't have said anything if Tebow were black. Moon's right in his analysis; he just wouldn't told the media that if Tebow weren't a white monkeyballer, for lack of a better term.
    didn't moon play in the cfl? i'm sure he was asked about tebow's chances in the league since he once played in it and knows what it takes to compete in that particular league. you think if tebow was black and moon was asked about his chances he would have said "no comment"?

    moon doesn't strike me as the type of black male who would do something ignorant like that.

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    Moon wouldn't have said anything if Tebow were black. Moon's right in his analysis; he just wouldn't told the media that if Tebow weren't a white monkeyballer, for lack of a better term.
    Warren Moon has been around for a long time he's way beyond that sort of thing. He doesn't care about color, way past that stage.

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    No not at all.

    I was just thinking how Tebow beat the Steelers while Manning lost. So it's Tim Tebow won playoff games for Denver, Peyton Manning lost playoff games for Denver so it's...

    Tebow 1-1
    Manning 0-1
    Your argument went from Tebow went further than Manning to Tebow won more playoff games.

    Classic goal post move.

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    Your argument went from Tebow went further than Manning to Tebow won more playoff games.

    Classic goal post move.
    It isn't REAL obvious I forgot about the bye?

    Bottom line....Tebow wins his playoff game in Denver, Manning loses his, you disagree?

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    It isn't REAL obvious I forgot about the bye?

    Bottom line....Tebow wins his playoff game in Denver, Manning loses his, you disagree?
    I didn't have a stake in the argument.

    My only point is that you know jack , which is evident by the fact I had to make your argument for you because you're a senile old who forgot what happened a year ago.

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    didn't moon play in the cfl? i'm sure he was asked about tebow's chances in the league since he once played in it and knows what it takes to compete in that particular league. you think if tebow was black and moon was asked about his chances he would have said "no comment"?

    moon doesn't strike me as the type of black male who would do something ignorant like that.
    Had they asked about Denard Robinson's chances, Moon probably would have been diplomatic about that sort of thing. Something like, "We'll see. He's still young and has time to find his way." For Tebow, he was honest. It's not so much about him attacking white players as much as it's his strong aversion to criticizing black quarterbacks.

    Warren Moon has been around for a long time he's way beyond that sort of thing. He doesn't care about color, way past that stage.
    That's not true. Moon was around when it actually was likely that race could keep a player from getting a chance. He was called every name in the book, considered too dumb for the position. He didn't go to Canada because his mechanics needed work; he went because no team wanted him with his obvious "flaw."

    He has the scorn of a black man who's dealt with real racism, just like Bill Russell. I don't think he has anything against white people, but he definitely doesn't think that black quarterbacks are criticized fairly. So he goes soft on them, just like he did with Cam Newton early last season. He's just been through too much to be objective.

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    Had they asked about Denard Robinson's chances, Moon probably would have been diplomatic about that sort of thing. Something like, "We'll see. He's still young and has time to find his way." For Tebow, he was honest. It's not so much about him attacking white players as much as it's his strong aversion to criticizing black quarterbacks.



    That's not true. Moon was around when it actually was likely that race could keep a player from getting a chance. He was called every name in the book, considered too dumb for the position. He didn't go to Canada because his mechanics needed work; he went because no team wanted him with his obvious "flaw."

    He has the scorn of a black man who's dealt with real racism, just like Bill Russell. I don't think he has anything against white people, but he definitely doesn't think that black quarterbacks are criticized fairly. So he goes soft on them, just like he did with Cam Newton early last season. He's just been through too much to be objective.

    yea that's a reach, fam. denard isn't trying to be a qb. even if denard was as stubborn as tebow about being a qb, i still haven't seen evidence of moon catering to scrub black qb's or scrub qb's in general. did he say jamarcus russel and akili smith were studs or something? moon is a class act and wouldn't do something so ignorant just because he shares the same skin color as another player.

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    I didn't have a stake in the argument.

    My only point is that you know jack , which is evident by the fact I had to make your argument for you because you're a senile old who forgot what happened a year ago.
    I'm not a Bronco fan little man, simply as that. Just talking about Tebow winning and Manning losing when it came playoff time. Do you really want me to school your dumbass on your Patriots ya stupid ?

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    I'm not a Bronco fan little man, simply as that. Just talking about Tebow winning and Manning losing when it came playoff time. Do you really want me to school your dumbass on your Patriots ya stupid ?
    No, you weren't talking about that. I pointed it out to you and then you hijacked pretending you thought of it.

    lol 6'2" 278

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    Had they asked about Denard Robinson's chances, Moon probably would have been diplomatic about that sort of thing. Something like, "We'll see. He's still young and has time to find his way." For Tebow, he was honest. It's not so much about him attacking white players as much as it's his strong aversion to criticizing black quarterbacks.



    That's not true. Moon was around when it actually was likely that race could keep a player from getting a chance. He was called every name in the book, considered too dumb for the position. He didn't go to Canada because his mechanics needed work; he went because no team wanted him with his obvious "flaw."

    He has the scorn of a black man who's dealt with real racism, just like Bill Russell. I don't think he has anything against white people, but he definitely doesn't think that black quarterbacks are criticized fairly. So he goes soft on them, just like he did with Cam Newton early last season. He's just been through too much to be objective.
    Dude, I know all about Warren Moon, ok? Saw him play at Washington and the CFL.

    At this stage of the game he's smart enought to know how to play it, trust me.

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    yea that's a reach, fam. denard isn't trying to be a qb. even if denard was as stubborn as tebow about being a qb, i still haven't seen evidence of moon catering to scrub black qb's or scrub qb's in general. did he say jamarcus russel and akili smith were studs or something? moon is a class act and wouldn't do something so ignorant just because he shares the same skin color as another player.
    As I said, he just doesn't comment. It's not like he pretends bad quarterbacks are good; he is just inclined to see the best in them, and he doesn't take kindly to the media criticizing young black quarterbacks. I'm sure it's not a simple race thing; he probably identifies with them. The thing is, Moon did suffer unfair criticism for years. Even now, he doesn't really get the praise he deserves, and who knows what stats he'd've had had he been allowed to play in the NFL his whole career? Quarterbacks today don't undergo the same stereotyping he went through, but he doesn't really see it that way.

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    No, you weren't talking about that. I pointed it out to you and then you hijacked pretending you thought of it.

    lol 6'2" 278
    if I wasn't, that's exactly what I was talking about. Tebow outplaying Manning in the playoffs. Yep, forgot the bye.

    Actually 6-2 276 today.

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    Lol @ the death rattle of Tebow's fan base..just ing die already, guys a ing scrub. Move the on

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    Dude, I know all about Warren Moon, ok? Saw him play at Washington and the CFL.

    At this stage of the game he's smart enought to know how to play it, trust me.
    What does that have to do with the psychology of a black man that goes through discrimination? You're supposed to understand that type of thing more than most people here. But you seem to have missed the 50s, 60s and 70s, or you must have not been in the South for those decades. That racial conflict is etched in the minds of everyone (of all races) who was on the front lines to it. It defines the way they think. It doesn't make them bad people, or even racist people. But they notice things that those of us who weren't exposed to that never really think about.

    If you want to give a history lesson, fine. But don't whip out Wikipedia stats or Youtube videos. Warren Moon the man and Warren Moon the quarterback were in many ways different people.

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    God should take Tebow up to heaven with him..end the suffering of this fan base

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    What does that have to do with the psychology of a black man that goes through discrimination? You're supposed to understand that type of thing more than most people here. But you seem to have missed the 50s, 60s and 70s, or you must have not been in the South for those decades. That racial conflict is etched in the minds of everyone (of all races) who was on the front lines to it. It defines the way they think. It doesn't make them bad people, or even racist people. But they notice things that those of us who weren't exposed to that never really think about.

    If you want to give a history lesson, fine. But don't whip out Wikipedia stats or Youtube videos. Warren Moon the man and Warren Moon the quarterback were in many ways different people.
    And you sat down and talked to Mr, Moon about this when? Don't act like you know what the guy is all about, when you don't. You have no idea what his thoughts are. So cool acting like you do.

    And I'm probaly the only one here who actually lived the 50's, 60's............................

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