Shareef rejects Milwaukee bucks

[constantstate]

If the Spurs move Radoslav they can offer SAR a 6 year deal starting at $8.5 mil, for example.

Sure, again, it's up to Portland. If they can work out something with the Nets then SAR will get more than the MLE for 5 years.

i thought if the nets used their trade exception, they could get him another year? i read something about that and another player earlier.

[Marcus Bryant]

Correct, which is why I wrote:

Sure, again, it's up to Portland. If they can work out something with the Nets then SAR will get more than the MLE for 5 years.

If Portland will not take back a player from the Nets but will 'take' the trade exception (plus picks and/or cash) then the most the Nets can give SAR would be a deal starting at the MLE for 6 years. If Portland will take a player back (in addition to the trade exception), then the Nets would (edit: they would not be at all. The Nets would only be able to offer SAR the exact value of what they send back to Portland. That would be the $4.9 mil plus the salary of whatever player(s) the Nets trade to Portland.) be able to offer SAR a deal starting at 125% of the value they send back to Portland + $100K for 6 years

[constantstate]

i know he isnt going anywhere for the mle. his agent even says its gonna be a sign and trade for nj. i think its up to portland and what they want (like i said before) because at this point nj's offer is on the table. portland doesnt have to do anything just to "be nice".

[Marcus Bryant]

i know he isnt going anywhere for the mle. his agent even says its gonna be a sign and trade for nj. i think its up to portland and what they want (like i said before) because at this point nj's offer is on the table. portland doesnt have to do anything just to "be nice".

Certainly and I would expect that they will drag this out long enough until they get something worthwhile out of it, such as pick(s) and/or cash.

A point of clarification. I was wrong in that the Nets could sign SAR to a deal of 125% of the total value they would send to Portland in a sign and trade using their $4.9 million trade exception.

So it still would be tough for the Nets to match or beat an offer by another club that had a player the Blazers might want (ie Nesterovic).

[Marcus Bryant]

Here's a way to look at it. If Portland would accept Nesterovic in a sign and trade for SAR, then the max the Spurs would be able to offer SAR would be a 6 year guaranteed deal starting at 125% of Nesterovic's 2005-06 salary of $6.76 million plus $100K. That amounts to $8.5 million in the first year.

For the Nets to be able to do the same, they would have to get Portland to take back $3.6 million in player salary.

If, for example, the Blazers would accept Ron Mercer and Jacque Vaughn back (assuming that Mercer hasn't exercised his option) then that would give the Nets an extra $2.5 million or so to offer SAR above the $4.9 millon trade exception. Both Mercer and Vaughn have contracts that end after the 2005-06 season. Besides those two, I don't see anyone else they would want to trade to Portland. Honestly, if the Nets could offer SAR a 6 year deal starting at $7.4 million I would think that would be good enough if he really is interested in signing with the Nets.

So anyways, the Nets are in a tight spot if another team shows up with some player(s) the Blazers like, is interested in SAR, willing to give SAR such a contract and, of course, SAR would like to sign with them.

[constantstate]

hollinger brought up zoran planinic as a player they'd trade to portland to give him more $$$. and he seems to think they could sign him to another year too. (with the trade exception)

[Marcus Bryant]

hollinger brought up zoran planinic as a player they'd trade to portland to give him more $$$.

Assuming that Portland would take him back, in addition to Mercer and Vaughn, then the Blazers would be able to match what the Spurs could offer under the hypothetical scenario of Rasho to Portland.

In the end, I suspect that the Nets will end up sending a player or two plus some cash to defray some or all of their salaries plus perhaps a pick or two if SAR decides on the Nets.

and he seems to think they could sign him to another year too. (with the trade exception)

All that matters is that a trade occurs. That is what will enable SAR to receive a 6th year.

[constantstate]

yeah but do you think portland wants mercer or vaughn. how many people would? its still up to portland. (if sars wants more than mle money) unless he signs with the few clubs left under the cap. portland/nate are probably looking at contenders and seeing what they can get for him. otherwise i think they'll let him walk without anything in return (or maybe at the very least - just nj exception)

[Marcus Bryant]

yeah but do you think portland wants mercer or vaughn. how many people would?

Not many. That's why I think that the Nets would be sending some cash to Portland.

its still up to portland. (if sars wants more than mle money) unless he signs with the few clubs left under the cap.

Absolutely. Portland has some significant leverage in this scenario. If they are interested in a player another team is willing to give up (ie Rasho) then they can wreck the Nets' plans.

portland/nate are probably looking at contenders and seeing what they can get for him. otherwise i think they'll let him walk without anything in return (or maybe at the very least - just nj exception)

Indeed. The one thing that NJ has going for them is the trade exception. But to get Portland to the table they will have to offer something, be it a pick(s) or cash.

[constantstate]

you know theres still the chance that nate might see a rasho as insurance... and also something valuable to add to trades in the future. (and when they want to dump contracts) putting a package together with a "big" is always better.

[Marcus Bryant]

Portland was interested in Nesterovic last season. Put that together with the reported interest of the Spurs in SAR and SAR's longstanding interest in the Spurs.

If the Spurs were really interested in SAR and willing to significantly commit to him, they could screw up the Nets' plans.

[constantstate]

Portland was interested in Nesterovic last season. Put that together with the reported interest of the Spurs in SAR and SAR's longstanding interest in the Spurs.

If the Spurs were really interested in SAR and willing to significantly commit to him, they could screw up the Nets' plans.

i agree. the only thing that threw me was him telling nj to expect an answer within a week. hasnt that come and gone already? (if not, its getting there)