Why hate Shaq?

[Joesteds]

How did San Antonio put him on the radar? He put his damn self on the radar. No matter what town he played in, he is on the radar. So if Shaq was not from San Antonio then would be a crack dealer. A 7'3" crack dealer. I just want to know what part San Antonio played in him getting to point that he is now other than being a city that he lived in. I would say that L.A. put him on the map for what his fame is today with all the glamour and media coverage that surrounds that town. If Shaq would have played in some small town in Minnesota, he is on the radar and still going to a big school.

[nkdlunch]

Yes. Many, many times (including when he was in high school and much younger and smaller than he is now). And, I repeat...



I did not say that San Antonio made Shaq what he is (you are proving to me over and over and over that you either refuse to read others' post, or that you cannot read them). I SAID, and I quote:

If not for Cole High School and the city of San Antonio, Shaq would be a crack dealer. This city put him on the map and on the NBA radar, and he absolutely should not trash it like he does.

I stand by that 100%.

WTF??

Even if Shaq was born in Timbuktu, he would have made it in the NBA.

[ducks]

why say spur fans hate someone when you have no proof
when he plays against the spurs you root against him

I doubt most spur fans would want shaq dead
that to me is hate

[pache100]

How did San Antonio put him on the radar?

Ummm. HE PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL HERE (and San Antonio LOVED him! Not many others, who were probably as worthy, in this city got any notice Shaq's senior year of HS). And, because of that, he got a college scholarship. And because of that, he was noticed by the NBA.

Do you need a picture? Or a map? Do you understand how people wind up in the NBA? They don't get picked up off the street, even if they are 7'4" tall.

[SWC Bonfire]

They don't get picked up off the street, even if they are 7'4" tall.

No, but they get picked up off the Mongolian Steppe

[Solid D]

He has gone back to Cole High before... when he was in town and talked with his coach and some of the kids. I think he likes San Antonio.

He makes stuff up because he's a big teaser and he says stuff about the Spurs because they are rivals and he knows it will bother people.

There was one thing that happened when Shaq played for Orlando that wasn't too cool. Shaq got thrown out of a game against David and the Spurs and his stepdad Phillip Harrison stood up and led his family and Shaq's entourage out (I was sitting in the baseline risers). The fans really let them have it for stomping out like that.

[Joesteds]

Ummm. HE PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL HERE! And, because of that, he got a college scholarship. And because of that, he was noticed by the NBA.

Do you need a picture? Or a map? Do you understand how people wind up in the NBA? They don't get picked up off the street, even if they are 7'4" tall.

Do you read any of my posts bro? I hope you read yours cause they are not making you look too intelligent. He is not in the N.B.A. because he played high school basketball in San Antonio. If he played high school ball in any other high school in America, he is in the N.B.A. and probably the same player he is now. If San Antonio is puts players on the radar, then every high school player should want to come here. I seriously doubt that Cole coach molded him into the player that he became. Don't know the guy, but I'm sure he is like a lot of high school coaches and had this beast of a kid come to his program and road the wave that this kid created. To say that San Antonio put him on the radar and without it, he would not have a college scholarship is straight ignorance.

[pache100]

No, but they get picked up off the Mongolian Steppe

That would not be a mediocre black military-brat student and fair-to-middling basketball player, then, would it? They are a dime a dozen here, no matter how tall they are. Unless they get some recognition and promotion at the right time in their lives, AS SHAQ DID.

[pache100]

Do you read any of my posts bro? I hope you read yours cause they are not making you look too intelligent. He is not in the N.B.A. because he played high school basketball in San Antonio. If he played high school ball in any other high school in America, he is in the N.B.A. and probably the same player he is now. If San Antonio is puts players on the radar, then every high school player should want to come here. I seriously doubt that Cole coach molded him into the player that he became. Don't know the guy, but I'm sure he is like a lot of high school coaches and had this beast of a kid come to his program and road the wave that this kid created. To say that San Antonio put him on the radar and without it, he would not have a college scholarship is straight ignorance.

To you, I say "Bull !" Trying to talk to you is like trying to talk to a wall...except talking to a wall is more fun, they listen better. Are you really so sure that your opinions are fact? 'Cause I have news for you. They're not. They are your opinion. Only. Not worth more or less than mine or anyone else's. And arguing opinion as fact does not make you look very intelligent, either.

[Joesteds]

Good one!!! Your intelligence continues to shine.

[SWC Bonfire]

I know somebody who played Shaq in HS. Cole was a small 3A school (I think, it might have been 2A). It ain't like he was playing the High School all-star team every week.

[pache100]

Good one!!! Your intelligence continues to shine.

Please see message # 34 after I edited it.

I'm done with you.

[SWC Bonfire]

Pache100, nobody is out to get you. Just have some fun, muchacho.

[nkdlunch]

Ummm. HE PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL HERE (and San Antonio LOVED him! Not many others, who were probably as worthy, in this city got any notice Shaq's senior year of HS). And, because of that, he got a college scholarship. And because of that, he was noticed by the NBA.

Dude, it's too early to start drinkin.

Shaq was noticed by the NBA because he was a monster who was abusing every other center he played against. And he ruled the paint and the boards. That's the biggest reason, any other reason is minimal.

[Joesteds]

Yeah Pache the whole point of message boards is to argue and discuss others opinions man. Its not to get pissed off and walk away. I am en led to mine and you are en led yours. If they differ then I am going to try to argue my points harder. The whole topic of this thing was to find out why people in SA dislike Shaq because I never really had a huge problem with him, and the rest of the time I play Devil's advocate to promote more discussion, otherwise a lot of the posts are the exact same in "I hate him" "He is a dumbass" "Shaq sucks errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

[pache100]

Yeah Pache the whole point of message boards is to argue and discuss others opinions man. Its not to get pissed off and walk away. I am en led to mine and you are en led yours. If they differ then I am going to try to argue my points harder.

Oh, I understand that. I've been posting on message boards for years (just not this one until recently). I'm not pissed off and I'm not walking away, I'm not going anywhere. I'm just done discussing this topic with you on this thread. 'Cause, man, you ain't listening and don't want to hear what anyone else has to say.

The whole topic of this thing was to find out why people in SA dislike Shaq because I never really had a huge problem with him, and the rest of the time I play Devil's advocate to promote more discussion, otherwise a lot of the posts are the exact same in "I hate him" "He is a dumbass" "Shaq sucks errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

I answered all that, and didn't have a problem with any of it until you started beating me over the head and telling me YOUR opinion was better/more important/more factual than MINE. That's when I quit. It gets pretty pointless when my opinions are dismissed and I get called "unintelligent" just because I disagree with you. I'll pretty much bow out of a discussion with someone every time when that starts.

[SWC Bonfire]

I hate Shaq because I lent him $20 bucks in 1989 and he still hasn't paid me back.

[easjer]

Shaq is a no talent ass clown who's all about show rather than substance. I don't hate him (for example, I don't want him dead or his family plague ridden), but I have ZERO respect for him. That's about as low as you get in my book.

[Joesteds]

I obviously feel my opinions are better because they are mine and I will argue them. You were the one using all caps and not budging on your opinions either bro. You are the one that started with the blast that I can't read. You started it and I end it. Thats the way it is. Get your pantys out of a wad and stop getting so sad that people proved to you that San Antonio made Shaq. Corsicana, Texas could have put Shaq on the radar. I dont think of SA when I think of high school basketball. All I think about with SA bball is John Jay and my old roomy STEVE GOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[temple.of.the.dog]

Shaq got a load of pub from local tv stations. The "Shaquille O'neal Highlight Reel" was famous... they milked him and he milked them, but it certainly had alot to do with all the notice he got early on. So I'd agree with pache on that. It didnt hurt, you know?

A friend of mine says it used to be on KSAT?

[strangeweather]

Shaq is a no talent ass clown who's all about show rather than substance. I don't hate him (for example, I don't want him dead or his family plague ridden), but I have ZERO respect for him. That's about as low as you get in my book.

Oh, come on. He's a very talented ass clown.

Seriously, for myself, the only thing I have against Shaq is the times he's beaten the Spurs fair and square, so I don't have any reason to hate the guy.

[pache100]

Oh, come on. He's a very talented ass clown.

Seriously, for myself, the only thing I have against Shaq is the times he's beaten the Spurs fair and square, so I don't have any reason to hate the guy.

Once again, just for clarification, I'd like to point out that I do not hate Shaq. I have a lot of respect for him (as a person, not as a basketball player), and I think he's a good man. He's given a lot back to society. Some of it has been made public, and some of it has not.

As for his relationship with David Robinson, he donated $10,000 of his own money to the Carver Academy when David retired; the Lakers matched it. He's made various other donations to David's charities over the years. I don't think he would have done that unless he respected David. And he donated a chunk (I do not remember the amount) to Tim Duncan's foundation when Tim's father died (if I'm not mistaken, the Lakers matched that, as well).

And, again...I understand why Shaq runs his mouth. The only problem I have with it is his constant insulting of the city of San Antonio. There is no reason for him to do that, absolutely no reason.

[SWC Bonfire]

...he donated $10,000...

If that's the case, he is a benevolent ass clown, and where's my $20?

A nice gesture, I'm sure he got as much publicity from it as possible, because that's his style.

[easjer]

strangeweather, I concede.


Hey, any philanthropy is a good thing. Oprah, for example, is quite the philanthropist. It doesn't mean I respect her any more. Shaq's offer to pay for Mikan's funeral was generous. Doesn't mean it wouldn't have been more useful to help pay his medical bills so that the man didn't have to sell his MVP trophy or do something more earlier for the pre-65ers.

Shrug. He is what he is and I've mellowed in my older age.

[pache100]

A nice gesture, I'm sure he got as much publicity from it as possible, because that's his style.

Yes, it was a nice gesture. And, no publicity about his donations is not his style. That is not why he does it. Had you heard about it before I just told you?