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    Also, Neither Jesus nor Secular Liberal Cuck Snark can fix the bridges, do any of you guys have solutions?
    the solution is to have the government properly appropriate our taxes and build/maintain bridges correctly.

    What's your solution, lol gtown?

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    Feds/Treasury can find $10T+ to save the financial sector (including European banks), which did nothing for the Real Economy, gave the Real Economy 99% NO RETURN on Investment.

    But spending $5T on sewers, water, bridges, roads, electrical grid, solar/wind incentives, all of which creates real and good jobs and have huge returns for decades, receives: "We're Broke. Austerity is Necessary"

    Just another indicator how the corrupt plutocracy takes care of itself while ing the un able 99%.

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    Wow...

    Don't any of you verify anything before opening your mouths?

    This was not due to a structural problem. The driver of the truck had an oversize load that was 15' 9" tall, driving in the right lane when he should have been in the left while going thorough the bridge because of its curved opening. The bridge at the far left only had a 14' 6" clearance. The driver hit the bridge structure with his heavy steel load.

    link: UPDATE 2-Investigators looking at height clearance in U.S. bridge collapse

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    Wow...

    Don't any of you verify anything before opening your mouths?
    Nobody likes a finger pointing hypocrite

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    Even bridges that are deemed structurally fine, like the bridge outside Seattle, can fail if they are hit in a critical spot. Several of these spans, which were built without redundancies, date from the fifties and sixties, when the government was trying to complete the nation's interstate highway system cheaply and quickly. About 18,000 "fracture critical" bridges are spread throughout the country.

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    I think we don't spend enough on the right things. The trillions of dollars we spend rebuilding Iraq and Afghanistan would have been much better used rebuilding America.

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    I think we don't spend enough on the right things. The trillions of dollars we spend rebuilding Iraq and Afghanistan would have been much better used rebuilding America.
    Mt. Vernon, WASH can go themselves. They're not real Americuns.

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    Cut out welfare.

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    they should just take what they spend on the defense department and put it into infastructure funding.


    even have the military build the roads and .


    would be better for the long term health of this nation anyway.

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    I think we don't spend enough on the right things. The trillions of dollars we spend rebuilding Iraq and Afghanistan would have been much better used rebuilding America.
    The bridges we're rebuilding in Iran and Afghanistan are much more important, since we will have to blow those up someday. Hopefully we built them with C4.

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    You know how many train derailings, bridge collapses, and other such massive infrastructure ups china has? This is the same place that proponents of infrastructure spending always hold up as the pinnacle of infrastructure development.

    Things break. Get over it.

    Infrastructure spending is great if you have saved up and can afford it. It isn't great if it's just going to get you in greater debt. We already have roads. We already have bridges. Blowing up the old ones and replacing them with new ones isn't going to help the economy.

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    You know how many train derailings, bridge collapses, and other such massive infrastructure ups china has? This is the same place that proponents of infrastructure spending always hold up as the pinnacle of infrastructure development.

    Things break. Get over it.

    Infrastructure spending is great if you have saved up and can afford it. It isn't great if it's just going to get you in greater debt. We already have roads. We already have bridges. Blowing up the old ones and replacing them with new ones isn't going to help the economy.

    The New Deal would argue otherwise.

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    You know how many train derailings, bridge collapses, and other such massive infrastructure ups china has? This is the same place that proponents of infrastructure spending always hold up as the pinnacle of infrastructure development.

    Things break. Get over it.

    Infrastructure spending is great if you have saved up and can afford it. It isn't great if it's just going to get you in greater debt. We already have roads. We already have bridges. Blowing up the old ones and replacing them with new ones isn't going to help the economy.
    The New Deal would argue otherwise.
    Heck, lost productivity due to traffic in Austin would argue otherwise.

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    IMO this country's infrastructure problem goes beyond bridges/roads/highways/etc. We also lose tons of productivity to power outages because of how ancient our grid is. Germany's power grid is underground, thus they don't have a major outage to deal with every time there's inclement weather. I agree with gtown that it would cost way too much to go across the country and make our entire power grid underground, but in major cities/places prone to extreme weather we should ditch overhanging power lines.

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    there's sewers, water treatment, water conservation, the power grid which is now unreliable and re ing/blocking the development of wind and solar.

    I expect TX and SoCal will have to build gargantuan desalination plants and pipelines, as Melbourne AU is doing, as reduced snow pack and mega-droughts risk to be chronic.

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    The bridges we're rebuilding in Iran and Afghanistan are much more important, since we will have to blow those up someday. Hopefully we built them with C4.

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    I think we don't spend enough on the right things. The trillions of dollars we spend rebuilding Iraq and Afghanistan would have been much better used rebuilding America.


    So true. A trillion dollars on domestic infrastructure improvements over the last decade would have done a lot of good things.

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    I expect TX and SoCal will have to build gargantuan desalination plants and pipelines, as Melbourne AU is doing, as reduced snow pack and mega-droughts risk to be chronic.
    Yep. Just a matter of time before we'll be pumping gulf water to Dallas and pacific water to Phoenix.

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    Yep. Just a matter of time before we'll be pumping gulf water to Dallas and pacific water to Phoenix.
    desal costs so much because it takes so much electricity, sorta like smelting aluminum. If TX off shore wind farms and coastal solar farms would supply the electricity, then we'd have a real winner.

    I have no confidence that TX repugs, esp the tea baggers like Cruz, give a about renewables and stuff like desalination.

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    Desalination isn't going to become a needed infrastructure, until water prices due to supply and demand justify the cost of it.

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    Desalination isn't going to become a needed infrastructure, until water prices due to supply and demand justify the cost of it.
    They won't let water prices skyrocket due to it being essential to every household's daily life, and esp water-greedy industry. This isn't a simple "free market" supply/demand issue, so you're stupid ideology doesn't apply (it never does).

    Orange County now treats municipal brown water, injects it into the aquifer cleaner than it come out of the aquifer, because people don't want to drink sewer water.

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    desal costs so much because it takes so much electricity, sorta like smelting aluminum. If TX off shore wind farms and coastal solar farms would supply the electricity, then we'd have a real winner.

    I have no confidence that TX repugs, esp the tea baggers like Cruz, give a about renewables and stuff like desalination.
    Texas gives enough of a about renewables to be the #1 wind producing state in the nation by a wide margin.

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    Desalination isn't going to become a needed infrastructure, until water prices due to supply and demand justify the cost of it.
    Correct. Just a matter of time.

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