Pacers: Indiana is a very solid team with a promising future, tbh..

[DMC]

Pacers have no real PG and we acquired our starting PG from them last summer, it's either because a.) Indiana were so stupid they traded their only legit PG to us or b.) he's indeed a worthless stub that even the pacers didn't want

Collison was making too much for his ty services. Their up was allowing the Leonard/Hill deal to go down. What George Hill does is slow the game down, but too ing slow. It's slow for no reason other than Hill has no court awareness/vision and his passing ability sucks. His handles are worse than Paul George. The Pacers basically play with a 11 second shot clock. Their ball movement is for looks only, it doesn't provide a "better best" scenario like it should it it fools no one. They don't have the threats outside to cause anyone to scramble to chase the ball around the perimeter so most of their outside ball movement is just going through the motions. They have no playbook, cannot set real screens, have no secondary screens, no back screens, they rarely cut to the basket, no real P&R game, just one on one until the clock expires then either hurl up a long attempt or try to dump it down low.

They need a coach and a system, other than Hill they have the pieces.

[ViceCity84]

Pacers suck.They didn''t even win 50 games in the weak east.Miami toyed with them.their last 3 wins were eaaaaaasy with game 7 being the easiest.
Awful bench
Below average backcourt

Our Spurs would of smoked Grizzlies East in 5 games.

[racm]

If you ask me, unless the Pacers add a good PG they'll be like the 80s Bucks. Good enough to constantly be in the Conference Finals, have a good starting five, but their lack of bench and a superstar will do them in.

[UNCLE-DREW]

If you ask me, unless the Pacers add a good PG they'll be like the 80s Bucks. Good enough to constantly be in the Conference Finals, have a good starting five, but their lack of bench and a superstar will do them in.

Best move they could do is trade granger for depth on the bench and mayb a capable PG indeed. Without that i doubt they will be in the conference finals next year. I do believe that George can lift his game up to a top 10 player and with the depth then they can be scary.

[racm]

Best move they could do is trade granger for depth on the bench and mayb a capable PG indeed. Without that i doubt they will be in the conference finals next year. I do believe that George can lift his game up to a top 10 player and with the depth then they can be scary.

Yeah. at worst George could look like Paul Pressey - capable point forward. At best he'll be a top 3 SF easily.

[Rogue]

Collison was making too much for his ty services. Their up was allowing the Leonard/Hill deal to go down. What George Hill does is slow the game down, but too ing slow. It's slow for no reason other than Hill has no court awareness/vision and his passing ability sucks. His handles are worse than Paul George. The Pacers basically play with a 11 second shot clock. Their ball movement is for looks only, it doesn't provide a "better best" scenario like it should it it fools no one. They don't have the threats outside to cause anyone to scramble to chase the ball around the perimeter so most of their outside ball movement is just going through the motions. They have no playbook, cannot set real screens, have no secondary screens, no back screens, they rarely cut to the basket, no real P&R game, just one on one until the clock expires then either hurl up a long attempt or try to dump it down low.

They need a coach and a system, other than Hill they have the pieces.

they had nothing yet still managed to make the conference finals and dragged the heat to 7 games. if you give them a decent PG, the league = ed? Hill looks slow in their system because that's exactly the style of game they choose to play i think, dude was initiated tons of fastbreaks when he was playing in san antonio if i remember correct. they have a dominant big in the form of Hibert so they have every reason make the most of this advantage. Hill's offensive talent have been badly constrained on the Pacers and they're still using him only because he's a solid defender imho

plus Vogel has done a good job taking the team this far tbh. the Pacers have a good tradition of cultivating good coaches (Carlisle as another example)

[dg7md]

They just need a passing point guard and a more reliable shooter and I think they could be le contenders. Their bench is a problem, but finding reliable bench players shouldn't be too hard.

[jdiggy0424]

Wonder how much of a piece of Danny Granger felt like knowing that he lost his paycheck to George.