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    Forget the sign and trade angle. The Spurs should convince him to sign for less money by dangling the carrot of him reprising his role as the spokeperson for Jim's restaurant.

    He's be a nice addition, but it would be an unneeded shakeup in my opinion.

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    Please God, let Seattle be STUPID enough to trade AD for the great O2 to CO2 convertor, Brent Barry.

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    AD would be an awesome combo guard here, and this year's series against SA was far from his best. He was the only muthufukka to show in 2001 against LA, a series that most have forgotten. 19p/3.3a/2.0r

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    its hard to dump on ad for his last season given beetle barry's performance. antonio would fit in great in the motion offense. , he could run point in that kind of offense.

    if you're paying barry $5 mil a season suddenly antonio's price doesn't look that bad.

    barry's contract ends in 3 seasons at most. the big cat's source tells him that there isn't a team option after the 2006-07 season though he seems to remember that there was an option. if so, seattle would only be on the hook for 2 more seasons with barry...

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    Please God, let Seattle be STUPID enough to trade AD for the great O2 to CO2 convertor, Brent Barry.

    Thanks,

    exstatic

    AD would be an awesome combo guard here, and this year's series against SA was far from his best. He was the only muthufukka to show in 2001 against LA, a series that most have forgotten. 19p/3.3a/2.0r
    You're right. I remember that series. AD showed up big in the 2001 sweep vs. L.A

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    antonio didn't quit when everyone else did. he's a gamer.

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    AD's a good combo guard, but as proved in the last 2 rounds of the playoffs, and indeed in game 7 if the Finals, when the Spurs hit the three well, they often win.

    Given the way our offense is structured in key stretches of the game: 1 pivot player (Tim), 2 penetrators (Tony, Manu) and 2 three point shooters (Horry, Bruce/Barry), I think we need Barry more than AD although AD may be a better player right now. Barry can also be trusted to handle the ball when Beno is struggling, so the need for a combo guard is somewhat negated.

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    The Spurs could have had a lasting dynasty if they had held onto Antonio Daniels and Stephen Jackson. To think what could have been and they gave it up for what? To save 5 million per year? Bahh.

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    The Spurs could have had a lasting dynasty if they had held onto Antonio Daniels and Stephen Jackson. To think what could have been and they gave it up for what? To save 5 million per year? Bahh.
    I prefer to deal in reality than coulda-woulda-shoulda. The Spurs won the Championship this year, without either Antonio Daniels or Stephen Jackson...apparently, they had exactly what they needed. It was Pop.

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    AD couldn't play point in SA.

    Now, somehow he can elsewhere.

    Could he play point here now?

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    I think by signing Oberto, a trade could now be worked with Rasho and Beno going in a S&T to Seattle.

    It would make sense for Seattle.

    Good backup point, starting center with skills and good defense.

    resign Radmonovic and Evans and your set.

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    AD has a lot of opportunities to start around the league right now. I don't think he'd come to SA to be a backup.

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    I think by signing Oberto, a trade could now be worked with Rasho and Beno going in a S&T to Seattle.

    It would make sense for Seattle.

    Good backup point, starting center with skills and good defense.

    resign Radmonovic and Evans and your set.
    The Spurs won't trade Beno. It took them awhile to find a legit backup and Beno is good enough.

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    Ugh...Rasho and Beno for AD?

    I don't get it. It's just my opinion, and I know there's tons of Beno hate right now, but I think Beno has waaaaaay more upside than AD. All AD's done is add some consistency to his game, but it's the same set of skills he had when he was here the first time. He hasn't added anything new to his game, he's just playing his game well more regularly now. That doesn't mean he has more game. It just means he's using the limited skills he has more effectively, but it doesn't change the fact that he has a limited skill set. No three-point shot, can't create his own shot, not an exceptional passer (although I was pleseantly surprised to hear his assist-turnover ratio was strong, but he's still not a PG), and he never really displayed an understanding of Pop's catch phrase: Mental toughness. He just didn't have it. What he did have was athleticism that, early on, showed a lot of potential. He's improved steadily, but not drastically. It wasn't enough then, it isn't enough now. I think Beno has the potential to improve dramatically. He may not, but I feel fairly sure we're not going to see AD have a "break-out" year next year...he's at his peak, or at least near it. Let him go somewhere he can start and take advantage of the growth he's made in the last few years. He didn't do too well sitting on Pop's bench or playing second fiddle to Tony the first time around.

    Am I really the only person who remembers AD trying to pass into the post? It was about as pretty as Bruce trying to catch a Manu pass on the break.

    No thank you.

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    Agree utterly with tekdragon. Beno will become a starting-quality point guard in this league.

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    Agree utterly with tekdragon. Beno will become a starting-quality point guard in this league.
    As soon as Beno learns how to handle the ball he could be a solid backup. He will never be a quality starting point guard. He doesn't have the athleticism to be that.
    He reminds me of John Paxson.

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    As soon as Beno learns how to handle the ball he could be a solid backup. He will never be a quality starting point guard. He doesn't have the athleticism to be that.
    He reminds me of John Paxson.

    Consider the the lower seeded teams..

    He could be a starter.

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    As soon as Beno learns how to handle the ball he could be a solid backup. He will never be a quality starting point guard. He doesn't have the athleticism to be that.
    I respectfully disagree. When he learns how to handle the ball better against quicker hounding guards - and I think he will - he'll be fine. He doesn't get completely juked by quick players, either. He's too savvy for that.

    I'm not saying he's going to be a star, but the guy has oodles of talent. I really think so. A better point guard than a guy who went 23 slots in front of him, Devin Harris. , Magic wasn't all that athletic, just tall. Stockton, of course, wasn't athletic at all. In the right offense Udrih could be a very good quarterback.

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    I respectfully disagree. When he learns how to handle the ball better against quicker hounding guards - and I think he will - he'll be fine. He doesn't get completely juked by quick players, either. He's too savvy for that.

    I'm not saying he's going to be a star, but the guy has oodles of talent. I really think so. A better point guard than a guy who went 23 slots in front of him, Devin Harris. , Magic wasn't all that athletic, just tall. Stockton, of course, wasn't athletic at all. In the right offense Udrih could be a very good quarterback.
    Stockton wasn't athletic but he had high IQ and great passing abilities. I can't say the same about Beno. Beno will get a little better but not much. Some players are drafted on potential and that's why they go higher.

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    Not saying Beno is Stockton at all. But he does have great sense with the basketball, great instincts, guts and talent to succeed. You saw flashes of how good he can be last year. Had a 20 point game, had a double double game. He has guts to get to the rack, guts to take needed shots, a great passing touch and eye.

    Some guys are drafted on potential, and some are drafted on hype. Dallas blew their draft last year on Harris and Podkolzine. Harris was not a #5 pick and I doubt his abilities to become a good point in this league.

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    Not saying Beno is Stockton at all. But he does have great sense with the basketball, great instincts, guts and talent to succeed. You saw flashes of how good he can be last year. Had a 20 point game, had a double double game. He has guts to get to the rack, guts to take needed shots, a great passing touch and eye.

    Some guys are drafted on potential, and some are drafted on hype. Dallas blew their draft last year on Harris and Podkolzine. Harris was not a #5 pick and I doubt his abilities to become a good point in this league.
    Agreed, I already see signs of superior court vision, passing accuracy/touch, and jump shot when compared to Tony Parker. If he cuts down on the rookie mistakes he will be a very dependable backup PG. His play tailspinned in the playoffs which is not suprising for a rookie. I would imagine if you looked at the history of rookie playoff performances as a whole you would see a decline in play due to the added excitement/pressure. Actaully that probably would hold true for a multi-year player who had no prior playoff experience as well.

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...14/daniels.ap/

    Daniels hopes to sign with Blazers
    Posted: Thursday July 14, 2005 1:51PM; Updated: Thursday July 14, 2005 7:23PM

    PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Free agent guard Antonio Daniels says he played his best basketball under coach Nate McMillan in Seattle and he wants to follow McMillan to the Trail Blazers.

    Daniels and his agent had dinner Tuesday night with Blazers general manager John Nash, player personnel director Kevin Pritchard and McMillan.

    McMillan coached Daniels the past two seasons with the SuperSonics. The two talked briefly after McMillan took the Portland job last week.

    Daniels says McMillan knows how to bring out the best in his players.

    The Los Angeles Lakers, Cleveland, Tornoto, Utah and Washington also have shown an interest in the six-four point guard and eight-year veteran.

    Nash downplayed the notion that an agreement with Daniels is imminent.

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    so Daniels wants to back up Telfair?

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    so Daniels wants to back up Telfair?
    Well Antonio was already backing up a less experienced point guard in Seattle, I really wouldn't see much difference. Although I do think that Ridinour is alot better than Telfair at this point in their careers.

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    Perhaps Portland is content with letting Damon Stoudamire go and are looking at AD as a replacement "combo" guard. Just so long as he doesn't end up with the Fakers - I'll be OK.

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    Nice interview with Antonio -- talking about the kids camp he runs, his wife expecting, free agency, and the possibility of returning to the Spurs.

    http://www.woai.com/mediacenter/defa...videoId=134530

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