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I feel dirty for having clicked on that link and having given that website some more money.
I don't have a clue on why TNT gives this clowns so much promotion during games.
I feel dirty for having clicked on that link and having given that website some more money.
Kevin Ding writes for Orange County Register. I think they just do some sort of joint ish with Bleacher Report.
Anyways, I don't really think it's a terrible article. If Duncan read it, his reaction would be: "He's probably right ... and I still don't care."
IMO, "legacy" is the most overrated term in sports. There's really not even such a thing. Everyone is remembered differently by everyone else. There are no universal rules to it.
An athlete trying to do something to improve their "legacy" is a mistake; you can't appease a non-existent, fluid ideal. All an athlete should focus on doing is what is best for them personally. That happiness/satisfaction is tangible. At the end of the day, nothing else matters.
For example, you listen to just about any athlete who retired or did something to protect their "legacy" and they almost all regret it later in life. It really is just a media-made myth, IMO.
You guys are too sensitive. He is right, this is all Duncan's fault. Everyone knows he should have raped a woman, left his team high and dry, berated his teammates and showed up his opponents. Then he would have gotten the respect he deserves.
The article is pretty accurate tbh...I mean what are yall disputing exactly?
Duncan has closed himself off from the rest of the world his entire career. How are people supposed to remember a guy they never got a chance to really know in the first place? Legacy isn't just about winning. It's about how you win. I know that's not the Spurs way of thinking, but that's how legacies are defined.
I mean Tony Parker has been the best point guard in the NBA for more than a decade now. And people are just now starting to acknowledge that he might be the best PG in the NBA. What took them so long? Parker and the Spurs closing themselves off is what. Look at CP3 and all his commercials. That's how you become known. That's how you get people to remember you. You connect with them.
I'm a diehard Spurs fan and I don't think the Spurs have anything to complain about. They dug their own grave in this regard. Even when the media has tried to connect with them they've turned them away. It's like the Spurs have been trying to stay underrated and unappreciated throughout the entire Popovich era. I think this article is 100% correct.
Im disputing the fact that just because the world is full of imbeciles doesn't mean you have to play their game. If the press don't pay homage to the teams who actually win it all, and multiple times then they are liars and hypocrites and theres no reason to give any creedence at all to them. I think its great that Duncan and Parker don't kiss anybodys ass and do what they want. Those four championships (and counting I hope) will always be there, they cant erase that.
How has he closed himself off? He's been the most consistent presence in the NBA for the past 16 years. He's played over 1,000 NBA games, and he's arguably been the best player across that timespan.
If people can't see what's obviously right in the front of them, that is their fault, not Tim's.
I disagree that it's about "how you win." No, it's about what you have actually accomplished, not how people subjectively interpret what you have accomplished.
If doing TV commercials, saying stupid to the media, and acting like a showboating tool are perceived as "interesting" by most people, then most people. Their opinions are irrelevant.
He didn't say Duncan had to play the media game. He just said because he didn't play it, he will be forgotten. And we shouldn't try to remember him when he went through so much trouble to be forgettable. I don't think that's a bad stance at all. I actually appreciate his honesty. It's better than him saying, "We should remember Duncan" and them proceeding to ignore him.
I mean, we'll all remember Duncan because we saw him play, but unless he goes to Spurs games like Robinson, what's going to make younger fans remember him? I rarely see Duncan highlights, and that's probably not going to change. Since he's probably not going to go into coaching or commentating, he'll probably fade from the public conscience within two or three years of getting into the Hall-of-Fame.
I agree with this article. Its the reason I start Duncan vs Kobe threads on here and am disgusted by the amount of support for Duncan on this site. On Lakers Ground...they start the same argument and 13 pages show up saying Kobe is the best of his generation easily. On here, it barely gets one page for Duncan and then Spurs fans get mad when an article like this comes out. Duncan needs massive support and loud fking voices shouting his name for his greatness like Laker fans do for Kobe...not passiveness.
I think the author is missing a big point in his tantrum over wanting access and an elite athlete to pander to him and care about his opinion and validate his worth as a journalist/person. Meh. The reality is that in a hundred years few people are going to care a whit about Tim Duncan, even if half his stats are still standing. Tim Duncan has been beyond what words can describe and the evidence of it is there. I think Tim is right on - he can't really control what people think about him and so he doesn't care. That's much better than most of us.
This reminds me, whatever happened to Kevin O'Keefe?
The Spurs are everything which American sports journalism bemoans the lack of in professional sports. A focus on winning, lack of drama, humility, and a team first mentality.
And they are hated for it.
The Spurs' performance over the last fifteen years is simply exceptional. What is also exceptional is the general tone of media coverage of one of the top professional sports organizations in North America.
The tone is dismissive if the team is even covered.
But, in the end, that is what makes it so enjoyable.
I think The fact that Duncan chooses to stay private actually humanizes him rather than de-humanizes him. All we know about Lebron for example and sports athletes in general is that they are really good at basketball or their sport. That's pretty much all that defines them to the outsider. How's that humanizing them?
Beating down the Jazz and Rockets for the last 13 years was excellent. The les are just gravy.
Basically what you have here is a guy who clearly isn't a Duncan fan. He wrote and article to attack him. Whatever, that's his choice. However, if Tim gets his 5th ring, I think it will be pretty damn hard to forget about his achievements. Especially in this day and age, the age of media and internet.
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