this Finals is on Manu

[Sean Cagney]

Like I said in my post (if you had actually read the whole damn thing), I too am frustrated as with Manu's performance and something definitely needs to be done about it.

What I have a problem with is when people call this guy a "pussy" or a " got" just because he doesn't play lights out anymore. He's 36 years old for God's sake! And he's dealt with more injuries than I can even care to count. Yet plenty of s on these forums seem to find it necessary to go on a massive hating spree on Manu as if he was the worst thing ever to happen to this organization. They take Manu's lack of performance personally, as if he stole their car or something.



I join you in my frustration of his performance, but all of you that are alienating Manu from this team and just flat-out hating on him need to shut the up.

I agree, but his fanboys make me sick! Acting like he is doing well and posting his plus minus and how he can help, in reality he aint done ! I agree with you but his fanboys need to shut the up NOW! He is playing like a damn bum, period! He sucks now and has for a while! He is not going to magically show up. His fans are the worst IMO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dallasmaverickslose]

You're all taking Manu's lackluster performance personally, as if he owes you something. The way you guys talk crap about him, he doesn't owe any of you a damn thing.

[Mal]

As long as he realizes that he cant contribute as much as were capable, Pop should use him.

[Sean Cagney]

Manu has regressed into a middle of the road bench player, not our sixth man and it's hurting the team. As a support of Manu I know I can't expect him to carry this team when Tim and Tony are not on the floor but he needs to contribute. He has not contributed enough in the 4 games we've played to have an impact in the game. I think Pop needs to intervene and get something going because Manu by himself is not going to figure it out, as I've mentioned in another thread he needs to have the ball out of his hands for a spell. Have someone like Diaw run point and have Manu come off some screens to have him get a good look at the basket. He needs to see it fall a few times before I'd have him run point and create. He needs to look for his own shot and not 25 feet away from the basket.

I agree, I am sick of his stupid stepback three which has no shot at all falling! He seems to keep it up though. I wish he would play ALOT SMARTER! PERIOD.

You're all taking Manu's lackluster performance personally, as if he owes you something. The way you guys talk crap about him, he doesn't owe any of you a damn thing.

OH GEE it is the Finals and I want my team to perform some! GOD FORBID!!!!!!!!!!! More than 7 some odd PPG and 30% shooting or less! HOW DARE US! How dare us want something more than that! 2.8 turnovers and three assists a game too! I guess we should expect bum numbers out of him now on! Thats what he is putting up!

[ElNono]

LOL and now you turn this one me! Did I enjoy this ride! Yeah before you were a fan TBH, I was there in 99 when we won our first le, before your Argie was there! I have been a fan since 93 TBH!!!!!!!!!!!! yeah 20 years. Did I enjoy this ride! LOL yeah! I did! But you trying to turn this on me now for saying Manu has played like utter ! GO ahead, that is all you Manu fans can seem to do nowadays is deflect and say other crap to get us off his garbage ass play! He has sucked, period. FACT.

I've been a fan since '96, so you definitely got me there... lol

tbh, you sound upset that I'm merely pointing out the obvious. You've been a drama queen since even before the playoffs started...

It's not a knock, tbh... everybody is different. I'm glad you were able to enjoy the ride

[hommeaetage]

Manu has regressed into a middle of the road bench player, not our sixth man and it's hurting the team. As a support of Manu I know I can't expect him to carry this team when Tim and Tony are not on the floor but he needs to contribute. He has not contributed enough in the 4 games we've played to have an impact in the game. I think Pop needs to intervene and get something going because Manu by himself is not going to figure it out, as I've mentioned in another thread he needs to have the ball out of his hands for a spell. Have someone like Diaw run point and have Manu come off some screens to have him get a good look at the basket. He needs to see it fall a few times before I'd have him run point and create. He needs to look for his own shot and not 25 feet away from the basket.

This. I think the backup PG issue is really hurting the team right now. The only guy on the team that could run point and take the ball out of Manu is probably T-mac (He ran the backup PG in Detroit and Atlanta), but we all know that's not gonna happen

[RD2191]

He's ting the bed as pg and sg, so why is he playing?

[ElNono]

Manu has regressed into a middle of the road bench player, not our sixth man and it's hurting the team. As a support of Manu I know I can't expect him to carry this team when Tim and Tony are not on the floor but he needs to contribute. He has not contributed enough in the 4 games we've played to have an impact in the game. I think Pop needs to intervene and get something going because Manu by himself is not going to figure it out, as I've mentioned in another thread he needs to have the ball out of his hands for a spell. Have someone like Diaw run point and have Manu come off some screens to have him get a good look at the basket. He needs to see it fall a few times before I'd have him run point and create. He needs to look for his own shot and not 25 feet away from the basket.

I agree, but I don't think that's on Manu. We already knew going in that Miami is a team that trap and kill PGs. Top perimeter defense in the league. Definitely going to be on Pop to find a way to make Manu produce more.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

LOL and now you turn this one me! Did I enjoy this ride! Yeah before you were a fan TBH, I was there in 99 when we won our first le, before your Argie was there! I have been a fan since 93 TBH!!!!!!!!!!!! yeah 20 years. Did I enjoy this ride! LOL yeah! I did! But you trying to turn this on me now for saying Manu has played like utter ! GO ahead, that is all you Manu fans can seem to do nowadays is deflect and say other crap to get us off his garbage ass play! He has sucked, period. FACT.

You are really coming out like a pretty unstable person now. The bile is going to make you pop a vein or something. Your comments are showing your hate and are starting to border insanity.

Hope you don't have a meltdown in game 5.

[Sean Cagney]

I've been a fan since '96, so you definitely got me there... lol

tbh, you sound upset that I'm merely pointing out the obvious. You've been a drama queen since even before the playoffs started...

It's not a knock, tbh... everybody is different. I'm glad you were able to enjoy the ride

I have been a drama queen, but you have been a delusional Manu apologist too! Since before the playoffs began! ADMIT IT! I agree I have enjoyed the ride but me being a drama queen would mean to me you are a delusional Manu fan! We both can play at that name calling game. Bottom line is we both want a 5th le! HERE! AND NOW! We are both on the same boat! I wish Manu would join us on this ride! But Emmanuel so far has yet to show in these finals for a good game! I want us to win the next two and if Manu goes off I will will cry and laugh! I want the Spurs to win it all! Manu has been bad though.

[dallasmaverickslose]

I agree, I am sick of his stupid stepback three which has no shot at all falling! He seems to keep it up though. I wish he would play ALOT SMARTER! PERIOD.

OH GEE it is the Finals and I want my team to perform some! GOD FORBID!!!!!!!!!!! More than 7 some odd PPG and 30% shooting or less! HOW DARE US! How dare us want something more than that! 2.8 turnovers and three assists a game too! I guess we should expect bum numbers out of him now on! Thats what he is putting up!

What I said was more in reference to the OP, but now that I think of it, you're just as bad.

[Yuixafun]

Sometimes I wonder if Sean Cagney even enjoyed the ride... it was all a big drama even before the playoffs started.

The Spurs already went way beyond expectations this season. This whole thing is one big gravy train. Sure, it would be sweet as if we can pull it off, but this been a great season regardless.

Manu could the bed from here on out, and I frankly couldn't care less... It's just been great to see the ole big 3 on one more big dance.

You know I could dig that sentiment...

If they went down swinging doing their best and Miami just played phenomenal

but getting beat while playing piss poor is maddening and bordering on disgust.

[Sean Cagney]

You are really coming out like a pretty unstable person now. The bile is going to make you pop a vein or something. Your comments are showing your hate and are starting to border insanity.

Hope you don't have a meltdown in game 5.

OH GOT STFU!!!!!!!!!!!! Just stop it! Now. You have nothing else to say so you resort to this. I will be fine, Manu has not been fine. LOL at turning this on me. Stop it. Just stop it.

What I said was more in reference to the OP, but now that I think of it, you're just as bad.

Look at his numbers and you blame me! You Manu fan boys are sad! Just admit he sucks now, thats all. He needs to step it up, and ALOT!

[TheGoldStandard]

I agree, but I don't think that's on Manu. We already knew going in that Miami is a team that trap and kill PGs. Top perimeter defense in the league. Definitely going to be on Pop to find a way to make Manu produce more.

The way he plays that trap/rush on the initial pick is predictable and that's on Manu. He goes left and either tries again or backs off trying to force them out and splits a pass in between.. there is no ball rotation it's easy to see where he is going and splitter is garbage unless he's wide open and even that's not a gimmie.

[FkLA]

Again, I know at this point of his career Manu cannot give us 25-30 pts. But he's averaging 7.5 PPG in the Finals, and that's not enough. In game 1 he scored 13 pts. Are you guys really telling me a smart player like Manu cannot find a way to give the Spurs about 11-13 pts and we should give him a pass for that? C'mon!

Manu has shown over the years that he comes up big in the biggest stages. This isnt a case of him ting the bed or underperforming, father time has simply caught up to him. Its saddening more than it is maddening to see him play like this since you can tell its killing him inside... this loss aint on him, aging is out of his control tbh.

[dallasmaverickslose]

Manu has shown over the years that he comes up big in the biggest stages. This isnt a case of him ting the bed or underperforming, father time has simply caught up to him. Its saddening more than it is maddening to see him play like this since you can tell its killing him inside... this loss aint on him, aging is out of his control tbh.

This is exactly what I'm trying to say. There are too many unrealistic s on this site that fail to realize this, tbh.

[Sean Cagney]

Manu has shown over the years that he comes up big in the biggest stages. This isnt a case of him ting the bed or underperforming, father time has simply caught up to him. Its saddening more than it is maddening to see him play like this since you can tell its killing him inside... this loss aint on him, aging is out of his control tbh.

Yeah but his fans can't see this now! They will diss me and you! THEY STILL BELIEVE! THEY BELIEVE! Look he is horrible now and has been this year for the second half sides a few games I miss Manu now, but he is not here anymore. It is killing him inside, but he doesn't have it anymore, period. That is a fact now.

[TheGoldStandard]

The thing is even old men can still shoot the ball, they just have to be smart with it. Pop needs to step in and talk with him, get him grounded and looking for smart shots. I wouldn't be surprised to see Manu start game 5 if Miami decides to start Miller again and go small.

[dallasmaverickslose]

OH GOT STFU!!!!!!!!!!!! Just stop it! Now. You have nothing else to say so you resort to this. I will be fine, Manu has not been fine. LOL at turning this on me. Stop it. Just stop it.

Look at his numbers and you blame me! You Manu fan boys are sad! Just admit he sucks now, thats all. He needs to step it up, and ALOT!

I am SO insulted that you called me a Manu fan boy. How dare you!

Your arguments have absolutely no substance behind them, and your expectations of an old Manu facing the best peremiter D in the league are outrageous.

EDIT: You can go ahead and consider yourself an unrealistic .

[Sean Cagney]

This is exactly what I'm trying to say. There are too many unrealistic s on this site that fail to realize this, tbh.

Okay father time caught up to him! PERIOD! We all agree on that there, father time got him! WE all agree there. He is not longer a huge key to this team or where they go from here on out! If he showed up though just one game I bet we would win it! Will he though?

[dallasmaverickslose]

Okay father time caught up to him! PERIOD! We all agree on that there, father time got him! WE all agree there. He is not longer a huge key to this team or where they go from here on out! If he showed up though just one game I bet we would win it! Will he though?

That's not the kind of message I was hearing from you earlier...

[Sean Cagney]

I am SO insulted that you called me a Manu fan boy. How dare you!

Your arguments have absolutely no substance behind them, and your expectations of an old Manu facing the best peremiter D in the league are outrageous.

EDIT: You can go ahead and consider yourself an unrealistic .

My arguments hold no substance? But I bet his numbers prove me right! RIGHT? Okay. I expect him to be okay now yes, as he got 30 plus a few times last years playoffs, but now he can't get 15 or near that....... That seems I am right, he is done. I want him to go off for a game and shut all of us UP! I wish he would! GOD YES please let that happen! I want this le! PERIOD!

[Yuixafun]

Fine if he can't score...

but that doesn't mean he has to make bad decisions with the ball, basically pissing possessions away

and putting the Spurs in a vulnerable position at the same time.


It's cool if he only scores 5 points

but he is directly contributing to broken offense leading to transition buckets for Miami which gets their players in rhythm


His miscues are being enhanced in the damage it causes because of the timing and affects on multiple aspects of the game.

He is killing the team.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Sean Cagney, do me a favor, shut the up, lay down the beer and go to bed. You will be fresh tomorrow and then realize how you became a huge tonight

[TheGoldStandard]

Manu should be good in spurts, I'm not saying he is going to be flying up and down the court putting on a show but damn he needs to hit at least 1 shot early on and not in garbage time. I think its the caliber of shots he's taking. They need to be point blank and if its not falling than really go at it and draw a foul to get to the line.