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Well, I'm pretty sure that the current law is adequate. Regulations set to take effect are already making several coal facilities to close.
Seems to me that you would never be satisfied until emissions are zero...
I'd classify coal ash and coal mining tailing as hazardous, toxic materials, every toxic dump a Super Site, and force the owners to clean it up.
If the owners aren't around, the govt computes the clean up costs, then extracts that number from ALL coal mining companies.
I'd forbid any further strip mining.
I'd give all coal-fired plants 5 years to scrub their emissions completey, no cadmium, so sulfur, no heavy metals, no methyl mercury, no CO2, nothing, or shut down.
I'd forbid all exports of coal, since we know the other countries would burn US coal, esp China, with little or no pollution, ash controls.
If the coal companies can mine cleanly, and coal-fired plants can burn coal cleanly, I say fine.
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Well, I'm pretty sure that the current law is adequate. Regulations set to take effect are already making several coal facilities to close.
Seems to me that you would never be satisfied until emissions are zero...
I am pretty sure you barely know what the regulations are. You didn't know if there were any strip mines in the country to begin with.
btw, talking about coal...
Bulletproof Security: Mining Company Hires Paramilitary Commandos to Guard Their Precious Equipment, and Wisconsin Is Unhappy
In response to protests against test drilling for a controversial proposed $1.5 billion open-pit iron ore mine in northern Wisconsin by Gogebic Taconite, the mining company has hired masked, camouflaged, assault-rifle-toting guards from a self-described, Arizona-based "no compromise" security force that boasts of "rigorous tactical firearms training" and "professional operators" who combine "logistics with tactical support" to "instinctively and smoothly manage surrounding threats." Thanks to the mindless Rambo-ing up, the "surrounding threats" are now mostly the once-peaceable, now-pissed residents who, in a letter from Democratic legislators, blast the company's “confrontational and incendiary step that will clearly do more to intimidate local citizens and increase local tensions than it will to make you, your staff, or your equipment any safer.”
“Some of the local people are wondering what the heck? It’s come to a sad situation when you’ve got to have a machine gun to protect a business that people around here don’t want.” - Paul DeMain, editor of the News from Indian County.
Update: More on the Arizona businessman behind Bulletproof. Besides mercenaries-for-hire, he also deals in real estate and payday loans.
http://www.commondreams.org/sites/co...ite_gun1_0.jpg
Will these watched-"Commando"-too-many-times bag assholes actually shoot up protesting citizens?
An open letter from evangelical scientists warning of the dangers of climate change
http://www.cornwallalliance.org/docs...al-warming.pdf
I would be fine if they killed Eco-terrorists. However, they pulled the plug several hours before you posted your Common Dreams article.
How many $Ms do these scientists have to outbid BigCarbon's lobbyists for Congressional votes-for-sale?
LOL...\
seriously?
I trust the Farmers Almanac before any of the Climate Experts.
Climate change is simultaneously much more severe than expected and much less severe than expected, and consensus is simultaneously heating up and cooling. Whatever. At the end of the day I'll either not need to change anything at all, or I'll need to adapt a little bit. The people who will suffer are the ones who suffer anyway, no big deal. Who's going to watch the All-Star Game?
you trust BigCarbon propaganda and anything BC's denial scientists vomit.
What if God came back? Louis CK explains climate change to the Christians
http://redgreenandblue.org/2013/08/1...he-christians/
Why do people think that every Christian on Earth does not believe in climate change/global warming?
a huge portion of US "Christians" deny biological evolution, believe in End Times, 6000 year old earth, God loves USA better than other countries, all dinosaurs in the Noah's Ark, etc, etc.
So you can't speak for all Christians in America and around the world? You are just generalizing and assuming about Christians right?
lol
Granular analysis is hard!
Easier to stay with insipid rationalizations/generalizations.
the ones that push their ty "Christianity" into public schools and other areas of taxpayer financed government, and those "Christians" that support them.
Here's an interesting new study:
link: Bounding the role of black carbon in the climate system: A scientific assessment
This is over the same period of time as the IPCC AR4 (1750 to 2005) which concludes the net global warming is 1.6 W m-2.We estimate that black carbon, with a total climate forcing of +1.1 W m-2
Here is another interesting peer reviewed paper:
link: The effects of solar variability on the Earth's climate
The TSI reconstructions shown in figure 1 suggest a maximum increase in TSI
of ca. 3.9 W m-2 since the Maunder minimum. This corresponds to a radiative
forcing of the order of 0.7 W m-2, which, using a climate-forcing parameter: of
0.5 K W-1 m2 (IPCC 2001), would suggest a solar-induced warming in global average
surface temperature of ca. 0.35 K since that time.
Doesn't leave much for CO2 warming...
The two studies together suggest solar + BC is 1.8 W m-2, when the total net warming is only 1.6...
Because Christian leaders chosen by Christians (i.e. Pat Robertson) are outspoken climate change deniers.
Don't want to be represented by Pat Robertson's views? Quit hing your money into his pockets.
Do you seriously suggest that the majority of Christians he for Robertson, or whomever? Yeah, I'm sure there's plenty from a numerical standpoint. From a percentage, I'd peg that somewhere around 3-5% of practicing Christians. So, no, they're not Christian leaders. That they are supported by Christians is true.
Most view them as the scammers they are. For every mega country club church, you've got 1000 local congregations that aren't subscribing to that bull .
Yes.
Driving through Northwest Texas, I saw town after town after town that was dirt poor but had a completely modern Church building with flashing signs about "The Lake of Fire!" as I drove by. Rural American towns everywhere are as bat as Robertson.
60% of America believes the story of Noah's Ark actually happened. That stat alone speaks volumes.
That's a hilarious sampling to be drawing conclusions from, tbh.
Noah's Ark =/= hing for Robertson. WTF.
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