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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    Varejao was averaging 14 and 14 last year and did this



  2. #27
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    People were begging CLE for him last year before he got hurt.

    Brook Lopez- 60 Million?

    Deandre Jordan - 40 millon

    JVale Mcgee- $46 million


    big men are scarce, and are making good money for how average or below average they are... Anyone who is big and can somewhat finish around the rim is makin 10 mill a year.

  3. #28
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    Varejao was averaging 14 and 14 last year and did this



    14 and 14! damn...

    Jordan Hill > Verajao

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    14 and 14! damn...

    Jordan Hill > Verajao
    14 and 14 isn't really a joke considering duh-white averaged 17 and 12. i never called varejao elite, but he's no scrub. good asset

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    Brook Lopez- 60 Million?

    Deandre Jordan - 40 millon

    JVale Mcgee- $46 million


    big men are scarce, and are making good money for how average or below average they are... Anyone who is big and can somewhat finish around the rim is makin 10 mill a year.
    Thanks for making my point. He's making less than 10 and only guaranteed around 4M after next year.

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    Rumor is Charlotte is going for Otto Porter. WTF? MKG is 19 and just finished his rookie year. They've already given up on him?

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    If I'm CLE, I would consider a package of MKG (cheap, young, encouraging player at a position of need) + #4 pick + 2015 1st for the number 1 pick...

    Would give them Kyrie/Waiters/MKG/Thompson/+#4 Pick
    Seems like a lot to give up on Charlotte's part. I was think something like 1 and 19 for 4 and MKG. That puts MKG's value at about a top 7-10 pick, which seems about right (or even low considering this draft).

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    No way do I give up the 19th if I am CLE. MKG has promise, but if the team that drafted him at 2 last year is ready to move on and I'm giving up the number one pick (don't care if it's a weak draft or not), I am getting the clear cut better deal.

    To me, MKG+4th pick is bare min. I would likely require another pick (maybe top 5 protected) as well.

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    The Bobcats should keep him. It's like a car: No one is going to want a car with just 100 miles on it. Them selling him already kills his value just like the Wolves did with Derrick Williams. They should at least give him time to grow into his body and develop his game.

    To be fair, though, he jump shot looks terrible.

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    Im saying he is really reliant on someone who can get him good looks... not really a #1, 2, or 3 option...
    True, but he's also a good passer for a big man so you can actually run plays through him in stretches. And he does a lot of little things that don't show up in the box score. A guy like him is wasted on a team like Cleveland that isn't winning. He'd be worth a lot more to a contender.

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    No way do I give up the 19th if I am CLE. MKG has promise, but if the team that drafted him at 2 last year is ready to move on and I'm giving up the number one pick (don't care if it's a weak draft or not), I am getting the clear cut better deal.
    Really? I'd give up #19 for him in a heartbeat. Yeah, the team that drafted him #2 is ready to move on- but that to me is mitigated by the fact that the team is Charlotte, probably the worst organization in basketball.

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    Really? I'd give up #19 for him in a heartbeat. Yeah, the team that drafted him #2 is ready to move on- but that to me is mitigated by the fact that the team is Charlotte, probably the worst organization in basketball.
    He means my proposed 1 and 19 for MKG and 4 deal.

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    spurs should trade for him

    instead of expecting what he can do now, how about looking towards long term 2-3 seasons when he develops a jumpshot? i think it could pay off...if his contract is cheap...

    could always use another lengthy defender on the floor...

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    14 and 14 isn't really a joke considering duh-white averaged 17 and 12. i never called varejao elite, but he's no scrub. good asset
    how many people can score the basketball on the lakers and how many can score on the cavs? silly comparison verajao to dwight tbh.

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    Thanks for making my point. He's making less than 10 and only guaranteed around 4M after next year.

    Is he a top ten center?

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    Jesus christ, this guy was a number 2 pick in last year's draft. Kid has Kawhi Leonard potential.
    LMAO. I see what you did there.

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    lol jordan to draft another clown who doesnt play basketball

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    how many people can score the basketball on the lakers and how many can score on the cavs? silly comparison verajao to dwight tbh.
    i don't care what the scenario is. averaging 14 and 14 means you're no joke. i never said he's as good as dwight, i brought up his numbers as a point of reference.

    by ur logic, lets discount kobe's highest average scoring seasons because he was "the only guy that could score." basically ur logic says kobe's point totals/milestones are inflated because he was the russell westbrook of the mid 2000's lakers

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    does jordan with all these lottery picks over the years, does he have any intention developing them?

    or is he just drafting busts to comply with league rules of players on roster and minimum requirement within the salary cap, to continue collect nba revenue sharing?

    bobcats = nba farm team?

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    Why ? He`s been in league for one year. Develop him, not trade..

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    He's a superb talent that most teams would kill to have, especially since most of league is trying to emulate Miami's small ball oriented offense.

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    MJ is notorious for ing up young talent

    With the criticism mounting and his play getting worse, Brown became maddeningly frustrated, a kid convinced he was being repeatedly fouled in intrasquad scrimmages by two veterans, Christian Laettner and Jahidi White, who weren't quick enough, Brown believed, to stay with him. He would drive toward the basket and feel himself being bumped by a hard hip, sometimes losing the ball, infuriated the referees wouldn't blow a whistle. "That was a foul," he finally groaned.Play stopped. There was an electric silence. A wide-eyed Jordan was walking toward him. "You (expletive) flaming (expletive)," Jordan exploded. "You don't get a foul call on a (expletive) little touch foul, you (expletive). You don't bring that (expletive) here. Get your (expletive) ass back on the floor and play. I don't want to hear that (expletive) out of you again. Get your ass back and play, you (expletive)."
    A stupefied Brown could say nothing. He looked close to tears, thought a witness.
    "It was not a mortal wound," the same Wizards official said. But the man believed that Jordan's words left Brown numb for several days thereafter, observing that Brown appeared to be increasingly tentative on the court.
    For as long as Jordan would remain in his life, Brown would be diplomatic. Even so, some memories he had difficulty holding back.
    "It was pretty rough," Brown recalled later of the scrimmage. "But that's Michael Jordan. You deal with it. You learn you're a rookie and you're not going to get calls. ... But sometimes I felt all alone out there, like I was surrounded by sharks."

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