According to TGY, TP and Manu Should not have existed or ........

[Leetonidas]

damn you got me there, huge brainfart on my part. But still, he wasn't much at the time, he really blew up in the 2005 playoffs and almost took a Finals MVP from Timmy, so 2005 is when he really took off and if he was in Denver instead he would have never had the chance to shine like that on the biggest stage. Rookie Manu was not the same as Obi-Wan Ginobili

[Leetonidas]

And once again, that is irrelevant because this last contract he got was good to him and he made a of a lot more money in the final year of it than he was really worth. Like I said, dude has made tons of cash either way and would've still got 4-5 million from SA, not to mention all the outside money he gets from endorsements here and in Argentina. He was a little selfish when it came to negotiations this time, and like I said, it's his money and I can't say I wouldn't do the same, but the guy is already loaded, and for someone who supposedly cares so much about winning and doing whatever it takes to win, he didn't take a below market value contract the way Tim and Tony did, he is fairly overpaid now, and was as well last season. Once again, don't bring up him taking less money on his first re-signing with the Spurs. His last contract made up for that, and the Spurs have always shown him faith despite his injury problems.

One more thing...had Ginobili ever gone to another team for money, he would've been asked to take on a bigger role and play a lot more minutes and if that were the case he'd have missed multiple playoffs and would probably be retired from the NBA by now. Pop managing his minutes is the best thing that could've ever happened for him

[Diego20]

damn you got me there, huge brainfart on my part. But still, he wasn't much at the time, he really blew up in the 2005 playoffs and almost took a Finals MVP from Timmy, so 2005 is when he really took off and if he was in Denver instead he would have never had the chance to shine like that on the biggest stage. Rookie Manu was not the same as Obi-Wan Ginobili

I don't think so.. With Anthony and Iverson in the Nuggets, why not thinking that Manu could have helped them to win a ring? Nuggets had good players. But is also true that Spurs had a better than Nuggets in those years, actually, Spurs always had better teams than Nuggets.

[xmas1997]

See what I highlighted in bold? That's enough for me to understand why you get so butt hurt whenever someone criticizes Manu. xmas1997 just follows along like a little sheep that has blind faith in the Pop & FO therefore I will not waste my time arguing with that person. xmass1997, you are the perfect definition of a Spurs homer. You're blind, and you ignore the shortcomings and failures of your favorite team. That is what's wrong with being a Spurs homer.

No butt hurt from me, but typical of you making stupid assinine juvenile assumptions because you can't come up with a rational argument without resorting to name calling.
Just further proves you are really a troll and NOT A true Spurs fan.
Plus you continue on with the Manu Pop BS even though most of us have heard it all before, and before, and before, and before, ....... you get my point!
I am quite confidant that the more you talk, the more you hang yourself with fallacious statements about the Spurs and about me and others, without any help from me.
What? Did they come down on you here for misrepresenting others posts with your copying and pasting.
Such a juvenile, you prove it with every post.

Before I forget: with the post . Good luck coming back to reality.

[xmas1997]

See what I highlighted in bold? That's enough for me to understand why you get so butt hurt whenever someone criticizes Manu. xmas1997 just follows along like a little sheep that has blind faith in the Pop & FO therefore I will not waste my time arguing with that person. xmass1997, you are the perfect definition of a Spurs homer. You're blind, and you ignore the shortcomings and failures of your favorite team. That is what's wrong with being a Spurs homer.

No butt hurt from me, but typical of you making stupid assinine juvenile assumptions because you can't come up with a rational argument without resorting to name calling.
Just further proves you are really a troll and NOT A true Spurs fan.
Plus you continue on with the Manu Pop BS even though most of us have heard it all before, and before, and before, and before, ....... you get my point!
I am quite confidant that the more you talk, the more you hang yourself with fallacious statements about the Spurs and about me and others, without any help from me.
What? Did they come down on you here for misrepresenting others posts with your copying and pasting.
Such a juvenile, you prove it with every post.

Before I forget: with the post . Good luck coming back to reality.

[playblair]

[Leetonidas]

I don't think so.. With Anthony and Iverson in the Nuggets, why not thinking that Manu could have helped them to win a ring? Nuggets had good players. But is also true that Spurs had a better than Nuggets in those years, actually, Spurs always had better teams than Nuggets.

`You're assuming that the Nuggets are still going to get Iverson with Ginobili on the roster. Pretty sure Iverson was traded there in 2007 season. And if you're assuming that they would still in fact trade for him I'd remind you that there is a lot of other factors that change because of Ginobili signing in Denver so it probably wouldn't happen

[Richard Simmons]

Hey, according to our famouse (?) member TGY, Spurs would have 5 rings now if TP and Manu should not have existed . Yes, he thinks that TD could have done everything by his own or maybe TP and Manu should have retired in 2007 with the ring.

His favorite starting lineup:

Duncan
Duncan
Duncan
Robinson
Duncan

or maybe this:

random player
random player ---------> with this lineup Spurs would have 5 rings!!
random player
random player
Duncan


lol, GTFO and stop quoting yourself. I said it once, you are not fan of Spurs, you are fan of TD and that's all.

all of that ^^^ coulda been summed up by saying "tim duncan could have one 5 rings regardless of who was around him"

[Vash StampedE]

The reason he's become famously infamous is because of you guys and these threads