Was Manus' new contract a good, or a bad, move by Spurs FO? And why?

[TheGreatYacht]

Jarrett Jack would have been unpopular fast. He chucks and isn't really a playmaker. His midrange is good but he's not really our style. Without a definite point guard that can consistently take pressure, we need Manu.

Playoff version of Jarrett Jack is better than the playoff version of Manu Ginobili, that's for sure.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Good points. At the very most, Manu deserved to be paid $3.5M/per year or $7M/2 year which is about half of the amount that the FO paid him. If Manu would have taken that amount and if the FO would of traded or amnestied Matt Bonner, the Spurs could’ve signed a pretty good FA such as AK47/Jarrett Jack.

So much cap space was wasted on that washed up 36 year old SG and Matt Bonner. If the Spurs don’t make it back to the NBA finals and the holes (a SF or backup PG) that didn’t get patched during the offseason come back to haunt them then there is only one man to blame. His name is Manu Ginobili.

btw if you think Tom stopped leading the team after 07, you're dumb.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Playoff version of Jarrett Jack is better than the playoff version of Manu Ginobili, that's for sure.

Based off what?

[td4mvp2k]

@ jack... stfu tro!

[TheGreatYacht]

@ jack... stfu tro!

Manu sucker is pissed

Based off what?

2013 Playoff Stats

Jarrett Jack 17.2 ppg, .506 fg%, .896 ft%, 4.4 rpg, 4.7 apg, 0.9 spg
Manu Ginobili 11.5 ppg, .399 fg%, .738 ft%, 3.7 rpg, 5.0 apg, 1.1 spg

[Diego20]

Good points. At the very most, Manu deserved to be paid $3.5M/per year or $7M/2 year which is about half of the amount that the FO paid him. If Manu would have taken that amount and if the FO would of traded or amnestied Matt Bonner, the Spurs could’ve signed a pretty good FA such as AK47/Jarrett Jack.

So much cap space was wasted on that washed up 36 year old SG and Matt Bonner. If the Spurs don’t make it back to the NBA finals and the holes (a SF or backup PG) that didn’t get patched during the offseason come back to haunt them then there is only one man to blame. His name is Manu Ginobili.

Who say Manu deserves 3,5 mill per year? You? Then he does not deserve that. TD could earn 1 mill per year and we could try signing others (?), lol you're dumb.

[TheGreatYacht]

Who say Manu deserves 3,5 mill per year? You? Then he does not deserve that. TD could earn 1 mill per year and we could try signing others (?), lol you're dumb.

Duncan > Manu. lol you're a Manu .

[td4mvp2k]

Manu 3... Jack 0...

[TheGreatYacht]

Manu 3... Jack 0...

Ring counting is for dumbasses. How many rings does Parker and Manu have without Tim Duncan? ZERO. See how idiotic that looks? Rings are team accomplishments.

[Diego20]

Duncan > Manu. lol you're a Manu .

I know Duncan is a lot better than Manu lol. But If you want more money to sign others players, there are more players in this team which could cut their pay. You're a Duncan .

[td4mvp2k]

and jack has wat??? Stfu!

[TheGreatYacht]

I know Duncan is a lot better than Manu lol. But If you want more money to sign others players, there are more players in this team which could cut their pay. You're a Duncan .

Duncan and Parker have taken pay cuts from their market value. What did Manu do this offseason? He got overpaid a ridiculous $14.5 M despite his pathetic performance in the playoffs. You're Argentinian so I can understand why you can't get Manu's of your mouth but it's all good.

[TheGreatYacht]

and jack has wat??? Stfu!

I have a 12 year old IQ.

[Diego20]

Duncan and Parker have taken pay cuts from their value. What did Manu do this offseason? He got overpaid a ridiculous $14.5 M despite his pathetic performance in the playoffs. You're Argentinian so I can understand why you can't get Manu's of your mouth but it's all good.

Here we go again, what was the "market value" of Duncan in the 2010-2011 season? It was not so high but he earned a lot more. You are so funny

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Duncan and Parker have taken pay cuts from their value. What did Manu do this offseason? He got overpaid a ridiculous $14.5 M despite his pathetic performance in the playoffs. You're Argentinian so I can understand why you can't get Manu's of your mouth but it's all good.

People think you're a troll because you get butthurt way too easily. Someone doesn't agree with you = homer, manu . Makes you look like you're 12

[td4mvp2k]

wat a tro

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

And because you edit posts. Just weakens your argument

[TheGreatYacht]

Here we go again, what was the "market value" of Duncan in the 2010-2011 season? It was not so high but he earned a lot more. You are so funny

@ reverting to type errors to win a basketball argument. You're a joke.

and jack has wat??? Stfu!

I have a 12 year old IQ.

I belong in the ESPN boards

[Diego20]

@ reverting to type errors to win a basketball argument. You're a joke.

But answer my question or you dont know what a question is? What was the market value of Duncan after that season and what was his pay in the 2011-2012? Come on, search it.

[td4mvp2k]

@ dis foo thinkn jack is parker n manu

[xmas1997]

Duncan > Manu. lol you're a Manu .

It would have been nice if you could have made your points without the name calling, but you can't do that, can you?
You just have to resort to trying to piss people off when they disagree.
So I have to agree with those who claim you are either a troll, or a disagreeable immature insecure juvenile, better known as a punk ass kid.
Given the choice, I say you're a , and one who likes to into the ground.
As your posts attest, you will end up hanging yourself, and even then, you would probably complain it wasn't a new rope!

[Diego20]

It would have been nice if you could have made your points without the name calling, but you can't do that, can you?
You just have to resort to trying to piss people off when they disagree.
So I have to agree with those who claim you are either a troll, or a disagreeable immature insecure juvenile, better known as a punk ass kid.
Given the choice, I say you're a , and one who likes to into the ground.
As your posts attest, you will end up hanging yourself, and even then, you would probably complain it wasn't a new rope!

Yeah and nobody said that Manu is better than Duncan haha. He's seeing what he wants and not what is it.

[Strategic]

It's a decent contract.

[TheGreatYacht]

But answer my question or you dont know what a question is? What was the market value of Duncan after that season and what was his pay in the 2011-2012? Come on, search it.

There are unfortunate realities that capped-out NBA teams have to suffer through as they head from one capped-out season to the next. Changing the face of a franchise is no easy task When attempting to switch personnel while over the salary cap, you're more or less stuck with what you had last season. Luckily for the San Antonio Spurs, they finished last season with Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker. And, luckily for Spurs fans, Duncan's willingness to cut his pay in half next season will allow the team to keep all three and retain help for the aging trio.
The massive pay cut Duncan took likely represents the last contract of his NBA career — from $21.16 million in 2011-12 to $9.65 million in 2012-13. It's a move that helps the Spurs vie for a championship in his waning years nearly as much as Duncan's play helped win les at his peak.
And it didn't go unnoticed by the great Mike Monroe of the San Antonio Express-News:

After being the third-highest paid player in the league last season, behind only Lakers star Kobe Bryant ($25.24 million) and Boston's Kevin Garnett ($21.25 million), Duncan next season will be the fourth-highest paid Spur.
[…]
A two-time NBA Most Valuable Player, the 36-year-old Duncan will see his salary rise to $10.36 million for the 2013-14 season. The team captain is guaranteed $10 million for the 2014-15 season, but he has an opt-out clause.

Duncan's pay cut had been expected, but few thought he would agree to a drop as significant as this. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...5938--nba.html

If you can't understand then you're so dumb.

It would have been nice if you could have made your points without the name calling, but you can't do that, can you?
You just have to resort to trying to piss people off when they disagree.
So I have to agree with those who claim you are either a troll, or a disagreeable immature insecure juvenile, better known as a punk ass kid.
Given the choice, I say you're a , and one who likes to into the ground.
As your posts attest, you will end up hanging yourself, and even then, you would probably complain it wasn't a new rope!

[Sean Cagney]

It's a decent contract.

Time will tell like some said, based off last year though and the playoffs it's not. He will get paid this year though so lets see if he can turn it around some and have a good year and perform better in the playoffs, hope so.