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    timvp: On the first point you're basically supporting me. I never said or thought or believed SAR would get more than the MLE. I never really thought a sign-and-trade was going to happen. I thought (and knew and was right) that he wouldn't go to the Spurs because he'd be stuck on the bench.

    And people, I could give a good crap about Scola as a player or a person. God forbid somebody sticks up for players' rights.

    Your last sentence was a mighty dangling thing and had no context to anything. Now that there's some context: Stepania, Walter McCarty, Jacobsen, are all complete scrubs and not worth mention. I mean that utterly: they're not worth putting into the 12th man slot. Maybe for New Orleans or even some second tier team with roster spots to fill, but the Spurs have a historical luxury of picking and chosing some elect player that can truly fill a role and be important down the stretch. We're quibbling about deep bench players, but we're talking about filling out possibly the deepest bench in the league. Talking bush league - maybe in 2001, not 2005.

    For the record, I'm absolutely out on Scola and support trading his rights and god bless.

    And since everyone's so high to hear my thoughts on 12th man, I'm pulling for a resign of Glenn Robinson.

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    Nothing in print so far. You'd think if the Spurs were serious about keeping him they'd make an attempt at it.
    did they not try to extend tp after fa's coudl get signed
    and with the new cba not being done yet....

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    Yeah, it's a shame that we have discussions in this forum about guys who the Spurs, with about half of their MLE, LLE, and vet minimum contracts are realistically going to use to fill out their roster.

    Read or scroll. Read or scroll.

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    Now that there's some context: Stepania, Walter McCarty, Jacobsen, are all complete scrubs and not worth mention. I mean that utterly: they're not worth putting into the 12th man slot.
    We are talking about filling the 11th through 15th spots. It's what we do in the summers - we talk about filling the roster. If you don't want to be part of the discussion, that's cool. But your nagging in every thread is beyond tiresome.

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    I mentioned Hakim Warrick earlier... I know he's a draft pick, but does anyone else think this guy might fit in well with the Spurs? Especially if the Grizzlies are looking at a trade for Nazr?

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    if the hawks don't get curry, send Nazr to the Hawks for Josh Childress. The hawks have too many swingmen as it is.

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    I know his initials are SAR, but when did we start calling Rahim SARS?
    I think it has it's roots go back when a poster known as Flea Flicker proposed a Jerome Kersey for Shareef Abdur-Rahim thread. We suggested that he go get checked out for SARS because he had to be sick to come up with that trade.


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    SARS is a very dangerous disease here in Asia...hahaha

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    SARS is a very dangerous disease here in Asia...hahaha
    it's from China or Hongkong, man.

    hey Duncanoypi, my NBA favorite team San Antonio Spurs won the le. Then, last week my PBA team San Miguel, won the le too against the Talk & Text Phonepals.

    I guess this is my lucky year huh?

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    I guess so milky! im tired of my team Purefoods...always a lottery team...hehe

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    if the hawks don't get curry, send Nazr to the Hawks for Josh Childress. The hawks have too many swingmen as it is.
    i like him but is Curry healthy enough to play next season? or until the next playoffs?

    I'd rather have Nazr.

    BTW, how about Chandler? Is he being shopped? or is he locked with the Bulls?

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    If the spurs really have to trade naz, id like to see him shipped to the Hornets for Speedy Claxton and __________.

    I miss the stability that speedy brought to the point guard position.

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    I know his initials are SAR, but when did we start calling Rahim SARS?
    People started calling him SARS once they realized that Supreme Allah Reigns Supreme!!!

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    I would rather trade Rasho, than Nazr. I'm not sure if Nazr is the better player, but I think he is better fit for the Spurs. IMO, Rasho could get exposed on a tough playoffs series.

    BTW
    Isnt only, Allah Reigns Supreme?
    SARS isnt that desease that has killed many in China and Canada?
    Last edited by dunkman; 07-21-2005 at 06:05 AM.

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    BTW
    Isnt only, Allah Reigns Supreme?
    SARS isnt that desease that has killed many in China and Canada?
    Yes Allah does reign supreme. But so do I!

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    Mr. Body,

    Being one of the founding fathers of fullsportpress, allow me to inject myself and update you on three things you need to know about this forum;

    1. It's probably the best online forum out there and it's run by really super people, including myself.

    2. timvp learnt everything he knows from me, so besting him in a debate is a waste of time.

    3. Some people have jobs and work for a living, Marcus Bryant starts 18-20 threads per day- live with it. Occasionally he does incite some interesting dialogue and for whatever reason, timvp likes him.

    I personally enjoy your takes Mr. Body but Kori is right, bring something more than just incessant whining if you want to stand out here. If you so desire, I can FedEx you some of my classic, awe-inspiring, jaw-dropping, 5k viewed threads if you're looking for someone to model yourself after, I'll even pay the shipping.

    Keep it real, stay focused.

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    Mr. Body,

    Being one of the founding fathers of fullsportpress, allow me to inject myself and update you on three things you need to know about this forum;

    1. It's probably the best online forum out there and it's run by really super people, including myself.

    2. timvp learnt everything he knows from me, so besting him in a debate is a waste of time.

    3. Some people have jobs and work for a living, Marcus Bryant starts 18-20 threads per day- live with it. Occasionally he does incite some interesting dialogue and for whatever reason, timvp likes him.

    I personally enjoy your takes Mr. Body but Kori is right, bring something more than just incessant whining if you want to stand out here. If you so desire, I can FedEx you some of my classic, awe-inspiring, jaw-dropping, 5k viewed threads if you're looking for someone to model yourself after, I'll even pay the shipping.

    Keep it real, stay focused.

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    The Spurs could get a good SF trading Nazr, but taking into account the Spurs rep for being thrifty/cheap, and the fact that the Spurs already have a very good swingman rotation (Manu, Bruce, Brent, plus probably Devin), I expect the Spurs to wait and see how Nazr, Rasho, and Oberto perform, and to keep the option of just letting Nazr go after next season.

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    Walton seems obsessed with my current occupation. Well, once he manages to move out of the busboy and porno theater janitor end of the labor market, he will find that you have a little more discretion when it comes to surfing during the day.

    Walton needs to mind his own business and try to find a way out of the one bedroom apartment he shares with TwoManJam up there in the Great White North.

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    Ah, the Great White North, a place where thirteen year olds don't blow each other away with semi-automatics, our political leader can spell the word "Iraq" and our perception in the global scheme of things is not one that immediately incites laughter......hmmm maybe I should move to the States? Lots to be proud of there....

    Damn I wish I was American man! Yeah! Let's nuke the bas s! Then sit around in our mobile homes eating our tv dinners wondering why we're the laughing stock of the ENTIRE world and the same people we trained are now plotting to kill us.....seems intelligent.

    Can you say "a shadow of it's former self"? Can you say "in ruins"? That's America for you. But telling that to a guy as dumb and ignorant and 'American' as Marcus Bryant is like trying to sell the war in Iraq to a person with above average intelligence......

    Since you constantly feel the necessity to bring my Canadian heritage into everything you formulate, I figured I'd bring you back to Earth.

    Check out the American flag, you have red, blue and white;

    Red: In Favor of the War in Iraq
    White: Against the War in Iraq
    Blue: Not knowing where Iraq is

    But the world's a safer and better place since 9-11 right? More Americans have been killed in Iraq than in Vietnam......and last time I checked they're still looking for those weapons.

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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    Are girls, besides Kori, not allowed to participate in this discussion?

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    Me personally I don't think Nazr would walk away from the Spurs. I mean he won a le here...he doesn't seem like the selfish type of player.

    I don't expect him to work for peanuts, but I think the Spurs could easily use the MLE for next season on him.
    I don't think that's realistic. Somebody will throw $50 million over five years at him -- it's really doubtful he'd settle for $30-$37 million over 5-6 years just to stay a Spur. He could do a lot of good in the world with that extra $13-$20 million. That's a lot of money to give up, especially when he's already won his ring.

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    If you move Rasho, then you'll free up some cap space needed should you decide to resign Nazr. First, let's see what Nazr does this season.

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    I personally enjoy your takes Mr. Body but Kori is right, bring something more than just incessant whining if you want to stand out here. If you so desire, I can FedEx you some of my classic, awe-inspiring, jaw-dropping, 5k viewed threads if you're looking for someone to model yourself after, I'll even pay the shipping.
    I am backing off because I am making a fool out of myself. I never meant to "make a name for myself" but got exercised at a time I could post quite a bit. I'll cool my heels a little. I do have legitimate issues, but they're not a big deal, though will state them for the last time and be done with it:

    1. People making fun of Scola for wanting something and getting pissed it didn't happen. Whatever the story turns out to be in the end, even if it is his and his agent's fault, it wasn't sitting right with me to call him a whiner who wasn't very talented, anyway. I found myself defending him to the point that suddenly I had some "manlove" for him and he was now my favorite player. There was some pettiness involved here.

    I was reminded of when I tried to get the forum to stop referring to Mohammed as "Nazi" and use his real name of "Nazr," since the former was all kinds of disrespectful. There was a kind of reflexive, playful, juvenile refusal to do at first.

    2. Marcus Bryant's posts I truly do believe wash good threads off the main board and out of sight to most viewers. True, I adopted the wrong tone in addressing it, which I got to by exasperation. He's a well respected member, and for good reason, and there was a clannishness in protecting him from the hierarchy, which is perfectly fine. But there's no reason I can't ridicule bad ideas the same as anyone else. My mistake was in calling into question his role as discussion-provider. His defensiveness whenever anybody shot an idea down - "Casey Jacobson has no game" - with - "oh, well then who would you come up with?" - doesn't really help, but I recognize the desire to keep discussions going, spinning like so many plates.

    Summertimes are rife with trades and signings that will not and cannot ever happen. Will not because they don't make basketball sense for the involved parties (SAR to San Antonio) and others because they break rules (Rasho for Josh Childress type ideas). I guess I thought of myself as some kind of avenging angel trying to set people straight and discuss realistic things that could ever transpire. But I didn't grasp that most people really do like to fantasize about having Rashard Lewis backing up Bowen, a trade that lead to the Sonics GM getting fired and general mutiny. Grasping better through my thick skull the nature of the forum, I'll back off and look for the threads suited to my tastes and stop vainly and misguidedly to rain on people's parades.

    It's a great site. I've felt it better than SpursReport. It's a long summer and little actually happens. I'm going back to intermittant posts on intermittant topics, like I ever wanted to.

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    Walton, that was weak, even for you.

    Mr. Body, you're another inmate here like the rest of us. "Know your role", to quote another.

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