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    The Spurs have a number of surplus, quality tradeable assets right now. This is quite a revelation for the Spurs in the David Robinson/Tim Duncan era.

    If the Spurs play their hand shrewdly over the next year, they can address the thinnest spot on the team right now (the 3) and set themselves up to be compe ive for a long, long time.

    Through some combination of Nazr, Rasho and Scola, the Spurs should be able to land a major talent for the 3 spot.

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    Hey Kori, do you have any knowledge if the Spurs intend to trade at all? Maybe they don't even think about moving Rasho or Nazr. Maybe they are just looking to sign a backup SF and thats it...
    They have been looking at trade possibilities since the free agency period began. They look every summer. It doesn't mean they are going to do something, but they are never complacent. They always check to see the possibilities of improving the team.

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    This is a trade that's become very intriguing for me in the last couple of days. It would be Rasho and Scola for Al Harrington. They could throw in Boris Diaw and it would still work under the CBA.

    If they are looking at this, there are a few things to wait on:

    1. To see if Atlanta lands Joe Johnson. That would mean less money for #2:

    2. To see if Atlanta can land Eddie Curry or Sam Dalembert. Either one would make Nesterovic less necessary.

    3. To see if the Spurs can lock down Mohammed with an extension. I feel Rasho is cramped in the Spurs' scheme, though uncomplainingly, and could prosper in a different system (though that system probably isn't Atlanta's, but anyway...). I also feel Mohammed is a much more natural fit for the Spurs offense, where his unparalleled offensive rebounding is extremely helpful, and where he'll learn the defense to be comparable to Rasho.

    Thoughts about Harrington on the Spurs:

    1. One year left on his contract. He doesn't work out? Pfft. Contract disappears. Atlanta might not think they could keep him after this year. With Jason Collier or whoever they stick in as C, they practically have nothing.

    2. Is a great character guy. Took Josh Smith under his wing last year the way Antonio Davis took him under his wing in Indiana. This might be a reason for Atlanta to balk.

    3. More natural a bench player than a star. He produced for the Pacers off the bench and would do so again. Most scouting reports list him as a marginal starter at best but a very good bench guy.

    4. He lacks three point range, almost a necessity in the Spurs' offense. They'd have to figure out what to do with a SF who doesn't like sitting in the corners. Fortunately, he has a good midrange jumper and would hit it on kick-outs, and with time, he could possibly be a threat from downtown.

    5. He is a decent banger and plays well inside. In essence, this would transform the team the way a SAR acquisition would have (not saying that was possible), by giving the Spurs their first legitimate inside scorer in some time. It would be an intriguing wrinkle to the offense.

    In sum, this is a solid all-around player who struggled somewhat in Atlanta trying to be something he's not, which is a team-leader and number one player. He could have a big impact off the bench. We would lose a big, bulky defender, but Nesterovic is superfluous with the Oberto signing. Harrington has a strong character, so there is no issue there. If the relationship with Scola is irreparable, then his rights could be included to sweeten the pot. Harrington is a sure quality at this point who would be good for at least a season try out, with the consolation for semi-failure being cap relief.

    Very intriguing, in my mind. Too bad he doesn't stick the three, but this is something that helps both teams and the Spurs would have to look very long and very hard at.
    Very nice analysis

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    Scola rihts for Diaw

    Diaw was a first rounder but did not convince and is not of any value to Hawks. he wants to leave. All this is really diminsihing his value to the point he could be nothing much than a really good prospect like Scola. Proven in Europe. they have the money to bring him in and the need.

    Diaw as team option on his contract for the next two season making it a nor risk.

    Either diaw finally realise his potential thanks to POP and TP and Bowen. Or never improve and it was a no risk

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    This is the best bigman in Europe we are discussing. Why, we need something more than Diaw back.

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    we are talking an european proven big man with big buyout and fitting issue in Spurs (arguable)

    it is a secound rounder for a first rounder

    leave my french homer person dream a litlle bit would you

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    It doesn't matter in what round the players were drafted.

    I am thinking "Diaw + something more".

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    I don't know about Harringtons defense but his numbers look very good. I would probably start him.
    Over who? He plays duncan's position. I don't know if he also plays the 3, but the would mean replacing bowen. In a couple of years, maybe he could replace bowen but not now. If he is coming to San Antonio he has to realise that he's going to be coming off the bench for at least a couple of years.

    I think this would be a good fit for harrington. He realises that he's coming to a championship team and could motivate him to do well. Pop could mold him into a good defensive player under spur's defensive schemes. He no doubt has great talent. The question is whether he can weather his ego and come off the bench like he did in Indiana.

    Question to harrington: would you rather start on a lottery team or come off the bench of a championship team?

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    if they did a straight up Rasho for Harrington trade it would work out

    Rasho 05'06' salary: $6,720,000

    Harrington 05'06' salary: $6,875,000

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    Over who? He plays duncan's position. I don't know if he also plays the 3, but the would mean replacing bowen. In a couple of years, maybe he could replace bowen but not now. If he is coming to San Antonio he has to realise that he's going to be coming off the bench for at least a couple of years.

    I think this would be a good fit for harrington. He realises that he's coming to a championship team and could motivate him to do well. Pop could mold him into a good defensive player under spur's defensive schemes. He no doubt has great talent. The question is whether he can weather his ego and come off the bench like he did in Indiana.

    Question to harrington: would you rather start on a lottery team or come off the bench of a championship team?
    I thought he is more a SF but I would start him next year(06/07). This year he would be the 1st guy off the bench imo. He averages 17/7, and is pretty young. It would take a lot to re-sign him I think, so the risk of loosing him in the offseason is pretty big.

    The rotation would be:
    Nazr, Oberto, Duncan, Horry (limited in reg season, more in playoffs)
    Gino, Bowen, Parker, Harrington, Barry

    Sounds good to me... I still doubt it will happen.

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    As I told some of you near the beginning of the month, I heard that the Spurs had talked to at least three teams about trading Scola's rights. So we'll probably hear a few of these possible scenarios come out. Whether a team will really think Scola's rights are worth much with his contract situation, who knows.

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    yeah harrington is more of a SF than he is a PF, he just posts up a little bit more than a SF would

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    I am thinking "Diaw + something more".
    Agreed.

    But the most sensible thing is to wait for one more year and see what happens with the buy-out come 2006.

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    I'd wait another year to Trade Scola's rights. Spurs can sit tight and try it again next year. I honestly think that despite Pop's comments about Scola being their priority this summer, they must have felt that they didn't necessarily need to bring him in this year. They have an abundance of bigs in the frontline now as it is.

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    and like others have said earlier, we have the draft rights to scola, so he is not going anywhere but we didnt own the rights to Oberto, that is why we went after Oberto; before another team could get him, we know other teams cant get to Scola so no worries there

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    Scola has requested that the Spurs trade him so he can play in the NBA this year. They usually do what they can to honor a player's request like that.

    Unless all they can get back in trade is crap, he'll be moved this summer.

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    Scola to Hawks? That will teach him about whining.
    You want to see and hear somebody whine?

    I present to you Ray Allen.

    From the evidence we all read on this board and other places, Scola is not a whinner.

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    You want to see and hear somebody whine?

    I present to you Ray Allen.

    From the evidence we all read on this board and other places, Scola is not a whinner.

    It was a joke.

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    I would want Josh Smith, keep in mind this is the Hawks we're talking about; they are morons. They have a glut of wingmen, especially if they sign Joe Johnson. Rasho and Scola could instantly give them a frontcourt all they would need is a pg.

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    can't the spurs dump rasho under the new CBA amensty clause?

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    can't the spurs dump rasho under the new CBA amensty clause?
    No, and anyway it would be a pretty stupid thing to do with multiple trade offers on the table.

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    can't the spurs dump rasho under the new CBA amensty clause?
    No. They aren't in luxury tax territory. Plus, why would they if they could just trade him? The Spurs have turned down trade offers for Rasho. So they aren't dying to get rid of him.

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    If the Hawks sign JJ, I bet they would give up Josh Childress for Rasho and Scola. With J. Smith, JJ, Marvin, and Al Harrington they wouldn't have much PT for him anyway.

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    I don't really understand the part about Rasho and the luxury tax that's referenced. I don't think the Spurs are close to being over the luxury tax threshhold. Are they?

    But is the point of the article saying the Spurs are trying to trade Rasho, along with Scola's rights, to Atlanta?

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    No. They aren't in luxury tax territory. Plus, why would they if they could just trade him? The Spurs have turned down trade offers for Rasho. So they aren't dying to get rid of him.

    And Angel begins to breathe again... a little.

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