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  1. #26
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    Regular season, Manning is the greatest ever and it's not close. Elway's regular season #s are less than spectacular.

    But come winning time in the playoff winter cold, Elway would put the team on his back and drag them to playoff wins like nobody I've ever seen.

    Everyone remembers the Drive, but his game/4th quarter drive against Moon and the Oilers is never talked about but equally beastly.
    My favorite one is actually pretty obscure. It was against the Redskins in the early 90's. Game winning touchdown pass to Rod Smith with zero time on the clock. It was Rod Smith's first ever reception and it was a diving game winner across the middle of the endzone.

    I still think Smith deserves to be in the HOF.

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    Peyton blowing his load in the regular season per par

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    My favorite one is actually pretty obscure. It was against the Redskins in the early 90's. Game winning touchdown pass to Rod Smith with zero time on the clock. It was Rod Smith's first ever reception and it was a diving game winner across the middle of the endzone.

    I still think Smith deserves to be in the HOF.
    For whatever reason, it's hard for WRs to get into the hall.

    I was a Moon/Oiler/run and shoot fan in the early 90s.

    I think it was divisional playoff game 91. Oilers lead 24-23. Broncos had no timeouts. Less than a minute on their own 30. 4th and 10 and horse tooth scrambles and finds a dude for about 30 yards. Broncos run time down and kick field goal.

    Personally, I think that loss sucked more than the Bills comeback.

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    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
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    Manning really is the GOAT regular season QB, he needs another SB in my eyes to be the greatest QB.

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    16 TDs

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    His arm looks levels better than last year, tbh..

    Peyton has had his share of playoff failures, but his supporting cast is usually mediocre, including last year, tbh..

    This year's Broncos roster is stacked on both sides of the ball + the best ST unit in the NFL, tbh..the running game is still erratic but improving..the weak link on the team is John Fox, but according to sources around the team, Fox barely does any coaching anymore..

    Manning will win the SB this year, barring injury, and he will be proclaimed the greatest of all-time..

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    His arm looks levels better than last year, tbh..

    Peyton has had his share of playoff failures, but his supporting cast is usually mediocre, including last year, tbh..

    This year's Broncos roster is stacked on both sides of the ball + the best ST unit in the NFL, tbh..the running game is still erratic but improving..the weak link on the team is John Fox, but according to sources around the team, Fox barely does any coaching anymore..

    Manning will win the SB this year, barring injury, and he will be proclaimed the greatest of all-time..
    Adam Gase is everything right for Peyton. He is the perfect assistant with his superquick aggressive play calling. No chemistry issues to start the season, and the only thing John Fox did today was throw the challenge flag.

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    Eli will end up with more picks than Peyton has touchdowns

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    Houston for not selling out to go after Peyton.

  10. #35
    We've got a job to do. Darth_Pelican's Avatar
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    Single season passing yards is on pace to be broken as well.

    NFL Record: 5,476 yards (Brees)

    Current:

    Manning: 1,470 through 4 games. Pace: 5,880 yards

    Brees: 1,434 through 4 games. Pace: 5,736 yards

    Rodgers: 1,057 through 3 games. Pace: 5,637 yards

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    i feel bad for the great qb's from back in the day that never had a chance to play in today's league. if marino put up those kind of numbers throughout the 80's/90's imagine what he would do today

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    i feel bad for the great qb's from back in the day that never had a chance to play in today's league. if marino put up those kind of numbers throughout the 80's/90's imagine what he would do today
    Yeah, that's pretty true but I mean, the game changes over time in any sport. It's a lot harder to play defense in the NBA now too because of rule changes, and that sport especially can definitely be impacted by the refs. The NFL not so much, there are some famous bad calls that impacted games but only maybe three or four of them you can say were such ty calls that it cost the team it screwed over the win. In football, it's hardly ever one play that swings a game unless it's a clutch scoring play or defense stop with time running out.

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    Never said anything about refs deciding outcomes tbh

    i just would love to see a guy like Marino in today's league

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    Never said anything about refs deciding outcomes tbh

    i just would love to see a guy like Marino in today's league
    I wasn't saying you did. Today's NFL is more pass happy because of the rule changes back in 2003 and the more recent ones about defenseless receivers and helmet-to-helmet contact. You're right about Marino, he'd probably win Super Bowls in this era.

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    I wasn't saying you did. Today's NFL is more pass happy because of the rule changes back in 2003 and the more recent ones about defenseless receivers and helmet-to-helmet contact. You're right about Marino, he'd probably win Super Bowls in this era.
    Not if Tom Olivadatti was still the Dolphins DC

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    414 yards and 4 touchdowns puts him at a total of 1884 yards and 20 touchdowns through 5 games.

    on pace for: 6029 yards and 64 touchdowns

  17. #42
    We've got a job to do. Darth_Pelican's Avatar
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    Updated:

    Single Season Records:
    50 TD's (Brady)
    5,476 Yards (Brees)
    122.5 Passer Rating (Rodgers)
    71.2% Completion Percentage (Brees)

    Peyton Manning

    Through 6 Games: 2,179 Yards, 22 TDs, 128.8 Passer Rating, 74.2% Completion Percentage

    Pace: 5,811 Yards, 59 TDs, 128.8 Passer Rating, 74.2% Completion Percentage


    If he breaks all 4 of those records in the same season, then it's not even debatable that this is the greatest season by anyone in the history of the NFL

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    29 TDs at the half-way point. Needs to maintain 3TD per game to get 51.

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    Brady had 10 after 3 games in 07. He had 11 a couple seasons ago.
    There's a common denominator there somewhere.......


















    W.W.

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    There's a common denominator there somewhere.......


















    W.W.
    addition by subtraction
    midget
    he's a system player
    tom doesn't need weapons to succeed

  21. #46
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    lol raider fan obsessed with New England.

    Without Wes
    3-0

    With Wes
    0-2

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    Hi Mono, you haven't played with me in awhile

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    The Patriots had better rosters in the years before Welker. Were a defensive minded team that would run the ball well

    I could also spin it to say:

    Patriots when Brady throws less than 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns = 3-0
    Patriots when Brady throws more than 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns = 0-2

    Brady has had his best individual seasons when Welker was around, and I don't find that to be a coincidence

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    The Patriots had better rosters in the years before Welker.
    Yep, it's not like they ever had a 16-0 team with Welker or anything crazy like that.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    Yep, it's not like they ever had a 16-0 team with Welker or anything crazy like that.
    that's one of the 0-1 years you just listed with Welker

    Any of the Superbowl years > a team that lost in the superbowl.

    And like i said, Brady had his best individual seasons with Welker

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