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    A lot of wishful thinking by you guys. To be the best, you have to beat the best, not wish that a player has a debilitating injury. I don't disagree that something seems a little off seeing how in the NFL players come back faster than Westbrook after MCL injuries. But to even imply the Thunder won't be in the playoffs is comical, Westbrook or not.
    Wanting a fair playground led to 6.

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    A lot of wishful thinking by you guys. To be the best, you have to beat the best, not wish that a player has a debilitating injury. I don't disagree that something seems a little off seeing how in the NFL players come back faster than Westbrook after MCL injuries. But to even imply the Thunder won't be in the playoffs is comical, Westbrook or not.
    fuk that, i hope lbj goes down too. i don't think lbj feels bad that rose went down and pretty much guaranteed the heat a clear path to the finals the past 2 seasons.

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    Let's not get crazy: No team with prime Durant and near elite defense is missing the playoffs. And given that Parker is unlikely to consistently play at the level he has the past two seasons, plus the Spurs constant managing of minutes/injuries, they probably aren't running away and hiding in that time frame.

    Obviously, it helps the Spurs chances of finishing with the one seed or at least a higher seed than the Thunder, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the Thunder make a deadline move (Dragic or Gortat, come to mind as prime candidates) that changes the complexion of their team. Whether Westbrook is 100% or not, they can't honestly like their chances against the Spurs or they think have a legitimate shot at beating the Heat.

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    Let's not get crazy: No team with a prime Durant and near elite defense is missing the playoffs.
    I'm not completely disagreeing with you - just wanted to point out that Westbrook's crazy athleticism played a big role in the effectiveness of OKC's defense. I don't think it's a lock that their D is going to be at the same level if he's not 100%.

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    I'm not completely disagreeing with you - just wanted to point out that Westbrook's crazy athleticism played a big role in the effectiveness of OKC's defense. I don't think it's a lock that their D is going to be at the same level if he's not 100%.
    Maybe not, but if it remains around 10th, then along with Durant's greatness, they should be fine as far as making the playoffs go, even if he had to miss a few more weeks.

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    Plus, OKC's defense is better in the perimeter (Sefolosha, Jackson, Westbrook, and even Durant) than inside (Prkins sucks at positional defense, Abaka bites on pump fakes, and their best team defender is Nick Collison).

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    Sucks for OKC. Spurs need to make hay while the sun is shining. I was actually thinking there was no way we would get the #1 seed from OKC, but if we come out fast, and Kawhi beasts, we might just do it now.

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    I never said they would miss the playoffs, rather that they would be out in the first round.
    In fact, I want them in the playoffs, the Lakers, and the Mavs too.
    I don't want any of those teams even sniffing the lottery!

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    fuk that, i hope lbj goes down too. i don't think lbj feels bad that rose went down and pretty much guaranteed the heat a clear path to the finals the past 2 seasons.
    I know what you mean. I'm just saying whoever is in your path, you have to take down. If Westbrook is healthy, so be it. But I want the Spurs to smack around a healthy team, because you know everyone will start ing about how the Spurs couldn't win a le when all opposition is healthy. ESPN already takes passive aggressive jabs at the Spurs pertaining to Westbrook getting hurt. Yet I don't hear anyone giving the Spurs any sympathy for Parker's hammy in the Finals. Or Manu's perennial injuries...yet all I hear is how if the Bulls/Rose were healthy.....

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    Let's not get crazy: No team with prime Durant and near elite defense is missing the playoffs. And given that Parker is unlikely to consistently play at the level he has the past two seasons, plus the Spurs constant managing of minutes/injuries, they probably aren't running away and hiding in that time frame.

    Obviously, it helps the Spurs chances of finishing with the one seed or at least a higher seed than the Thunder, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the Thunder make a deadline move (Dragic or Gortat, come to mind as prime candidates) that changes the complexion of their team. Whether Westbrook is 100% or not, they can't honestly like their chances against the Spurs or they think have a legitimate shot at beating the Heat.
    Kinda my thoughts as well.

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    Another year of OKC out in the first round.
    I think they'll make it to round 2. They aren't going very far without Harden though. I always said he was their real 2nd best player, not Westbrook. Westbrook just had higher stats because they gave him more playing time and much larger offensive responsibility.

    Then again is Westbrook misses a month+ to start the season then takes a little time to get to full force. . .OKC might end up without HCA in the first round. Guess it's a possibility they won't make it. I think Stern will inform Silver that OKC is to get to the 2nd round though.

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    I think they'll make it to round 2. They aren't going very far without Harden though. I always said he was their real 2nd best player, not Westbrook. Westbrook just had higher stats because they gave him more playing time and much larger offensive responsibility.

    Then again is Westbrook misses a month+ to start the season then takes a little time to get to full force. . .OKC might end up without HCA in the first round. Guess it's a possibility they won't make it. I think Stern will inform Silver that OKC is to get to the 2nd round though.

    No doubts about Sterns' agenda coming from me.
    I never realized how well you use irony in your veiled sarcasm.
    Bravo! Remind me never to get into an insult slinging contest with you, ok?

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    Loose s ch in his head probably, tbh.

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    loose s ch sinks ships

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    Even with a fully healthy Westbrook, the Thunder have regressed this offseason. The Cliippers, Warriors, and maybe Houston if they can get quality production from the PG position are bigger threats.

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    If Lamb can impress during season as he apparently is in camp, OKC could still make noise

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    Skip Bayless on First Take has some info on Westbrook's injury:

    Bayless said he's "not buying" what happened here.

    Bayless claims that Westbrook "defied the wishes of the team" in seeking treatment. Bayless claims that the team wanted Westbrook to go to the team surgeon to "clip" the meniscus, but Westbrook opted to go for an independent surgeon in Vail, Colorado. That surgeon believed that the damaged portion of the meniscus need not be snipped off but could be saved by s ching, in this case, one s ch. According to Skip, "for whatever reason, the s ch didn't take."

    Skip surmises (speculates) that in the second surgery the surgeon had to snip off the torn portion of the meniscus. This complicates things, because arthritic conditions can start to arise after two surgeries -- it could lead to a long term problem.

    So, according to Skip, it was Westbrook, not the team, that likely screwed up the treatment here.

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    Another year of OKC out in the first round.
    They went to the finals just over a year ago and were poised for a run last year until Westbrook got hurt (WCF the year before the finals), another year out in the first round? He is out for 4-6 weeks as well not the year, so he will be back and ready for the playoffs. If it were only that easy to get rid of them!

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    Let's not get crazy: No team with prime Durant and near elite defense is missing the playoffs. And given that Parker is unlikely to consistently play at the level he has the past two seasons, plus the Spurs constant managing of minutes/injuries, they probably aren't running away and hiding in that time frame.

    Obviously, it helps the Spurs chances of finishing with the one seed or at least a higher seed than the Thunder, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the Thunder make a deadline move (Dragic or Gortat, come to mind as prime candidates) that changes the complexion of their team. Whether Westbrook is 100% or not, they can't honestly like their chances against the Spurs or they think have a legitimate shot at beating the Heat.
    completely disagree without westbrook the okc not gotten homecourt, I think it was pretty clear last season against memphis

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    Let's not get crazy: No team with prime Durant and near elite defense is missing the playoffs. And given that Parker is unlikely to consistently play at the level he has the past two seasons, plus the Spurs constant managing of minutes/injuries, they probably aren't running away and hiding in that time frame.

    Obviously, it helps the Spurs chances of finishing with the one seed or at least a higher seed than the Thunder, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the Thunder make a deadline move (Dragic or Gortat, come to mind as prime candidates) that changes the complexion of their team. Whether Westbrook is 100% or not, they can't honestly like their chances against the Spurs or they think have a legitimate shot at beating the Heat.
    Couldn't agree more. Let's not forget that we have Pop on the sidelines who always finds ways to up in crunch time. We also have Manu who is motivated to come back for $$$ but has lost his passion for the game.

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    Couldn't agree more. Let's not forget that we have Pop on the sidelines who always finds ways to up in crunch time. We also have Manu who is motivated to come back for $$$ but has lost his passion for the game.

    How could anyone ever forget when you and your e-gang are constantly posting that crap?
    Can't you stop?
    Is there anyone on the planet you have not told this to yet?
    You remind me of the little kid who keeps saying over and over, "are we there yet, are we there yet?", and never stops saying it.
    Don't you get tired of saying the same old crap?
    We get tired of hearing it.
    It won't be long before your e-gang starts telling you to just shut the up!

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    Offensively, KD is going to have to run the show alone. Teams will likely let KD get his and shut everyone else down.
    If Westbrook never gets back to the level he was before his injury, Patrick Beverly is going to be Thunder fan enemy #1 for a long, long time.

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    How could anyone ever forget when you and your e-gang are constantly posting that crap?
    Can't you stop?
    Is there anyone on the planet you have not told this to yet?
    You remind me of the little kid who keeps saying over and over, "are we there yet, are we there yet?", and never stops saying it.
    Don't you get tired of saying the same old crap?
    We get tired of hearing it.
    It won't be long before your e-gang starts telling you to just shut the up!
    No, can't YOU stop hanging by their balls? Stop replying every time they're fishing FFS.

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    completely disagree without westbrook the okc not gotten homecourt, I think it was pretty clear last season against memphis
    They still have a chance, it just depends on how quickly he get's back to playing at least close to the level he's accustomed to. Here's what people keep overlooking: Other good teams (namely, the Spurs) are bound to get significant injuries along the way and none of them have a tireless, second best player in the world to carry them in the meantime.

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