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    They're both soft, but Baynes has a much more imposing body and a jumper. It's a long season, and they'll both be useful against different teams.
    What are you basing Baynes' softness on? He'd rip both your arms off and shove them up your ass.

    He might not use his physicality properly, but he doesn't look anywhere near as soft as Splitter out there.

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    Splitter will never mentally recover from the Finals. It's impossible to shake the soft label after the things that happened to him
    If he is mentally soft as true, some are some are not. If he is ready to move forward he will be alright and get better, hope for the last part to be true.

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    Splitter's superior in terms of his post game and his finesse, whilst Baynes is the more physical player, which gives him the edge over Splitter on rebounding and defense.
    YEP, and we have both on the team so that is a positive with those attributes.

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    What are you basing Baynes' softness on? He'd rip both your arms off and shove them up your ass.

    He might not use his physicality properly, but he doesn't look anywhere near as soft as Splitter out there.
    He is right in that Baynes needs to use the power dribble. He'd pinball people down low. A lot of that comes down to how much the refs let him get away with though.

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    Preseason performance should be taken with a grain of salt, obviously, so I'll reserve judgment until the regular season, tbh..

    Baynes looked like last year, tbh..he's huge and looked relatively athletic for his size, but very soft and uncoordinated..I'll give him a pass because he was thrown into the fire mid-season, in a complicated system, but there isn't much room left in the NBA for that type of player IMO, so the odds of becoming anything more than a decent 4th big are unlikely..

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    Preseason performance should be taken with a grain of salt, obviously, so I'll reserve judgment until the regular season, tbh..

    Baynes looked like last year, tbh..he's huge and looked relatively athletic for his size, but very soft and uncoordinated..I'll give him a pass because he was thrown into the fire mid-season, in a complicated system, but there isn't much room left in the NBA for that type of player IMO, so the odds of becoming anything more than a decent 4th big are unlikely..
    If you say so, but I have always held that a puppy has to bite before he can hunt. He be chompin.

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    The other problem with Splitter is he's slow footed, but I think that's why Ayres was added... Matty used to be the go-to guy for matchups like that, but then you lose any kind of strength inside.

    We'll see how things develop on that front.
    He's so slow. He's able to switch on to guards and still cause trouble for them.

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    What are you basing Baynes' softness on? He'd rip both your arms off and shove them up your ass.

    He might not use his physicality properly, but he doesn't look anywhere near as soft as Splitter out there.
    Right now he looks like a finesse player... jumper, hook... He has the body to overpower people. He should be able to bang/box out/rebound almost at will (except perhaps against monkeyballers).

    He's obviously new to this whole NBA thing, so there's a chance he's just happy to be here, and trying to fit in, but his aggression really needs to go up a few notches to be all he can be.

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    He's so slow. He's able to switch on to guards and still cause trouble for them.
    In what sense? He's a good rim protector, but as soon as he needs to chase anybody on the perimeter, Pop rather go small.

    EDIT: Forgot about Diaw, that's been the other alternative.

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    I don't get the soft label either, dude grew up playing rugby before switching over to basketball. I don't think contact is the issue, he probably needs more minutes, which I think he will get this year.

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    The pick play that Memphis ran in the clincher against us was a switch where Splitter had to change direction 180 degrees and keep Conley, who had a full head of steam coming off that double screen on the weakside, away from the basket. Splitter absolutely smothered that play. He didn't shut down Westbrook on switches but he pretty fleet of foot on the perimeter. He is certainly better than most starting 4s and 5s at it.

    I guess you want someone else to chase the Ryans Andersens of the world? I think that has more to do with discipline and experience than it does ability.

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    independent of everything that has already been said here, I think splitter had to be a gym rat, and increasingly strengthen if his specialty and his defense, he has to be the strongest

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    Splitter has been proven to not be able to play against the heat. Why not try develop baynes over the season so that we have him experienced enough to fight the heat, since ultimately we have to anyway?

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    Pre season has shown that Baynes and Splitter will make a very nice combo for the center role. Ayers has not impressed and is either a bad signing or has a long ways to go. Manu is as out of control as ever, and we have three allstar backup PGs............for the D-League. Unfortunately, none of three, on most nights will be better than the back up PG on the other team at the NBA level.

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    From what I've seen between the two players in a game or two of the preseason, Splitter is still the better fit to play alongside Duncan. I think it was the Atlanta game where Splitter played, passed well.

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    Splitter is still better defensively, and I'd trust him more late in games to not make a mistake. I'm a fan of Baynes and I hope we see him make strides to crack the rotation. A big athletic dude like that can always be handy

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    I guess you want someone else to chase the Ryans Andersens of the world? I think that has more to do with discipline and experience than it does ability.
    It's not what I want or don't want. I like Splitter and I think he's a huge improvement over, say, pairing Bonner with Tim. There's simply good and bad matchups for him (as there is for every player), and I think the Spurs do have the diversity with bigs now to address that, especially since Diaw was added.

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    It's not what I want or don't want. I like Splitter and I think he's a huge improvement over, say, pairing Bonner with Tim. There's simply good and bad matchups for him (as there is for every player), and I think the Spurs do have the diversity with bigs now to address that, especially since Diaw was added.
    Of course. Certainly makes sense with both guys having more than a year in the Spurs system you can afford to play all of them. Corporate knowledge and all that. I still would like one of Splitter, Duncan or Baynes on the floor at all times.

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    Call me crazy, but I think we are seeing the benefits with Baynes having the chance to go through camp and not join the team mid season

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    One thing I've noticed is that Baynes passing is crisper/smoother now compared to last season.

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    Cool ur jets OP.

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