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    FWIW, today's ESPN insiders lists Rasho as a likely amnesty casualty:
    Side note, I can't access ESPN.com today. It never loads for me. :shrug

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    I think we are over paying TD...he needs to take a paycut. Also trade Rasho.

    Then the Spurs will be set.
    TD or TP?

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    since rashos contract is always in question...

    is it possible for him to re-work his contract to a much lower one? (thinking he really wants to play for the spurs for more rings and ass-whoop KG some more)

    like take a paycut? in the middle of the contract?

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    extra money earned from championship>going over lux tax a little
    barry + rasho for ron artest

    possible move barry to point then do
    tony parker + rasho for ron artest

    since parker probaly has bigger contract
    spurs and pacers aren't under cap so we would need another team like hawks under cap in a three way for it to get pulled off

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    barry + rasho for ron artest
    Doesn't work. Barry + Rasho = ~$12M Artest = $6M

    tony parker + rasho for ron artest
    Still doesn't work. Parker + Rasho = ~$15M Artest still = $6M

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    FWIW, today's ESPN insiders lists Rasho as a likely amnesty casualty:

    San Antonio Spurs $59M Rasho Nesterovic

    The Spurs tried to pawn off Nesterovic to the Blazers for Abdur-Rahim but look as though they're now out of luck. Given where their payroll seems to be heading, they might want to get out of the four years, $30 million left on Nesterovic's deal before it's too late.
    That would be stupid. I'm sure the Spurs can find a team to trade him to for SOMETHING.

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    Doesn't work. Barry + Rasho = ~$12M Artest = $6M



    Still doesn't work. Parker + Rasho = ~$15M Artest still = $6M
    hints the we would have to get another teaam involved

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    basicly I am just throwing names out there whatever filler works to get he deal done

    players we need to keep
    1.manu
    2.Tim
    other than that whatever works

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    Look, if you're going to suggest trades, at least come up with ones that make sense. Indiana isn't going to give away Artest. That's just dumb. Even dumber is thinking they'd take a center and a PG for him when they've got Jermaine down low already and just signed a PG.



    Kori - I think Devin will slide into either what's left of the MLE or the LLE for his new contract.

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    Kori - I think Devin will slide into either what's left of the MLE or the LLE for his new contract.
    They have his EB rights. So, are you saying they will use the LLE/remaining MLE on him instead?

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    Kori or anyone who can answer,

    How much extra does a team like the spurs earn for winning a championships versus a team that doesn't make the playoffs? Are there bonuses paid to each player through each round of the playoffs?

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    keeep in mind when multiple team are involved what you send out doesn't have to go to the team you recived from

    right now ron artest isn't looking to be traded but if we send parker to a team that want him and they send an allstar to pacers

    or if ron artest pulls another stunt the pacers might be looking to trade him then

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    Kori or anyone who can answer,

    How much extra does a team like the spurs earn for winning a championships versus a team that doesn't make the playoffs? Are there bonuses paid to each player through each round of the playoffs?
    I found this explanation that I posted in another thread a long time ago.


    There's a pool of playoff money for the entire league. (For example for the 2003 playoffs it was $8.75M).

    Then there is a certain amount of money from the pool given to teams for regular season achievements (i.e. Best regular season record, Best regular season conference record, etc) and a post season achievements (i.e. making the playoffs, making the second round .... winning the le).

    Then it's up to each team how to distribute the money they've received. Each player normal gets one 'share' but the players can vote to give a certain player more shares, they can also choose to give the ballboys, trainers, The Coyote or whatever a share or partial shares as well.

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    I can guarantee you that the spurs aren't going to cut a check for $30 million to Rasho -- it's not even certain that we could.

    we aren't the Knicks and we don't have a sugar daddy owner like Cuban or Allen

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    You don't cut a $30M check. The team would just pay Rasho like they would normally -- on the same schedule.

    I'm against using the amnesty clause to get rid of Rasho, but if the Spurs front office is ordered to not exceed the luxary tax threshold, then it's really the only way for the Spurs to do so.

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    You don't cut a $30M check. The team would just pay Rasho like they would normally -- on the same schedule.
    hmmm... interesting. I did not know that. I could see that then

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    Kori, I mean that I don't think you'll see SA use the LLE, that I think Devin's new deal will start at the 1.8 million mark, and the Spurs will keep that feather (the LLE) in there hat for next summer for Scola (assuming they want to keep him).

    I've also got a funny feeling that Michael Finley will show up in the black and silver, grabbing what we have left of the MLE.

    The final move will be signing our Summer League stud Sanders to a minimum contract, and outside of a possible trade of Rasho that's all she wrote for SA this summer.

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    personaly I am in favor of vet min for finely I might change my mind later but if we can get him I think it would be good in a way if we cut rasho and then sign finely it woudl be like trading rasho for finely

    I think it is possible that he coudl get more money other places but anything can happen

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    I've said repeatedly (and still stand by it) that I think you will see the Spurs go over the tax by roughly 5-6 million.
    I want to think that, but I don't. Holt has said he doesn't want to go over the threshold in the past. He's the guy who fought for the tax in the first place, so the Spurs going over it would be a little odd.

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    That's already about $60M. Dangerously close to the estimated luxury tax threshold.

    Just food for thought.
    undefinedMore food for thought. We have to sign a few more players for the end of the bench. Thank God Beno is under a million. The Spurs FO must be sweating to find some additional players they can afford.

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    since rashos contract is always in question...

    is it possible for him to re-work his contract to a much lower one? (thinking he really wants to play for the spurs for more rings and ass-whoop KG some more)

    like take a paycut? in the middle of the contract?
    That is not possible. A player can't rework his contract like in football.

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    hmm can you use a buy out and then after a buy out re up, or is it if you get a buy out then the player has to sign somewhere else

    cannot we have mark cuban for an owner so we can pay players haha
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    I've also got a funny feeling that Michael Finley will show up in the black and silver, grabbing what we have left of the MLE.
    Oh, God...I sure hope not. No Michael Finley!

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    is there a better SF out there you want pache100? or is it one of those never shoudl we sign malone things?

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    cannot we have mark cuban for an owner so we can pay players haha
    Geez, you guys go from bad to worse...wanting Michael Finley to be a Spur to wanting Mark Cuban for an owner. I sure as heck don't want that over-rated money-soaked jackass clown as an owner of my guys. He's waaaaay more trouble than he's worth.

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