top pocket passers under the age of 25

[johnsmith]

okay and who is going to carry the pocket passing torch when peyton is done? what young qb's who can't run for and has little to no run game(even though knowshon is playing pretty good) has the potential to even come close to peyton?

So it's only important to be a scrambling quarterback if you're not talking about Manning?

That's fine, but clarify that the best quarterback in the league this season, and the quarterback that is going to shatter all previous passing marks is a statue in the pocket.

After that, ok, scrambling is important I guess. However, Matt Ryan has been awfully impressive....Tom Brady is a pretty good quarterback....Drew Brees is alright I suppose....Aaron Rodgers seems to be doing well....Andrew Luck has fairly impressive career ahead of him....Eli Manning has two super bowls....Rapelisberger is doing ok....Flacco just won one....Phillip Rivers is having a career year.....Alex Smith is 7-0.....and on and on and on and on.

[Trill Clinton]

so we don't have 5 pure pocket passing qb's under 25 who are studs??? not 5???! fail thread.

[johnsmith]

so we don't have 5 pure pocket passing qb's under 25 who are studs??? not 5???! fail thread.

So is Luck not a pocket passer in your book?

[Chief Brody]

yea i was thinking of the tyree pass. i wont take anyting away from him, flacco or ben's playoff numbers. those guys were blessed to have great coaches, great defenses and a solid run game to rely on. when it comes to managing a game in the playoff's those guys are second to none.

i think the last qb to win the game all on his lonesome was drew brees. no running game, below avg defense and he was dominant the entire game.

Eli had the 32nd rated rushing attack in the NFL in 2011, and the defense was in the high 20's. Last year Ray Rice was invisible in the SB outside of his tide-turning fumble. The defense collapsed for most of the second half and Flacco kept them afloat with clutch 3rd down dimes and 2 lengthy scoring drives.

If you look at all 5 of those games, the running game was nonexistent in all but Ben's first SB of 2005. Sorry fam, it just doesn't add up.

[Trill Clinton]

So it's only important to be a scrambling quarterback if you're not talking about Manning?

That's fine, but clarify that the best quarterback in the league this season, and the quarterback that is going to shatter all previous passing marks is a statue in the pocket.

After that, ok, scrambling is important I guess. However, Matt Ryan has been awfully impressive....Tom Brady is a pretty good quarterback....Drew Brees is alright I suppose....Aaron Rodgers seems to be doing well....Andrew Luck has fairly impressive career ahead of him....Eli Manning has two super bowls....Rapelisberger is doing ok....Flacco just won one....Phillip Rivers is having a career year.....Alex Smith is 7-0.....and on and on and on and on.

okay and what about the "on and on and on and on's" thats what i'm worried about. the guys you named are all vets. the thread is simple. top pocket passing qb's under 25. or just give me the top 5 qb's under 25 who aren't mobile.

[Trill Clinton]

So is Luck not a pocket passer in your book?

he can be at times but not in the traditional sense like peyton, brees and brady. but for the threads sake, we'll say he is. so luck and thats it?

[Raven]

he can be at times but not in the traditional sense like peyton, brees and brady. but for the threads sake, we'll say he is. so luck and thats it?

tannenhil? glennon i guess..

[Chief Brody]

he can be at times but not in the traditional sense like peyton, brees and brady. but for the threads sake, we'll say he is. so luck and thats it?

Sure, you can set the thread paramaters at whatever you want to get a desired response. I could make a thread that reads: "Top 5 teams where the black QB is the best player on the team" and the answer would be Washington and nobody else....maybe Oakland too since they are just terrible

[Trill Clinton]

Eli had the 32nd rated rushing attack in the NFL in 2011, and the defense was in the high 20's. Last year Ray Rice was invisible in the SB outside of his tide-turning fumble. The defense collapsed for most of the second half and Flacco kept them afloat with clutch 3rd down dimes and 2 lengthy scoring drives.

If you look at all 5 of those games, the running game was nonexistent in all but Ben's first SB of 2005. Sorry fam, it just doesn't add up.

how was the giants D and run game in 2007? the giants teams have a history of being mediocre and limping into the playoffs and then doing the smart thing by making eli manage the games and rely on the D.

big ben is one of my fav qb's of all time but i still think brees was the last non game managing qb to win a superbowl.

[Chief Brody]

how was the giants D and run game in 2007? the giants teams have a history of being mediocre and limping into the playoffs and then doing the smart thing by making eli manage the games and rely on the D.

big ben is one of my fav qb's of all time but i still think brees was the last non game managing qb to win a superbowl.

Giant D and run game was elite in 2007, but their running game was a complete non-factor in the SB. The defense played excellent, but it still required a GW drive and TD pass from Eli to win.

Who sealed the 2009 SB for the Saints btw when Peyton was driving for the tying score?

[Trill Clinton]

tannenhil? glennon i guess..

Sure, you can set the thread paramaters at whatever you want to get a desired response. I could make a thread that reads: "Top 5 teams where the black QB is the best player on the team" and the answer would be Washington and nobody else....maybe Oakland too since they are just terrible

most of the black qb's are still young and coming into their own so its not surprising they're not the best on their teams. i don't think my question of who are the top 5 pocket passing qb's under 25, is asking for too much.

[Chief Brody]

Breaking your best WR's knees will drop you in rankings tbh.

Karma for cutting his route off in the SB, tbh

[Trill Clinton]

Giant D and run game was elite in 2007, but their running game was a complete non-factor in the SB. The defense played excellent, but it still required a GW drive and TD pass from Eli to win.

Who sealed the 2009 SB for the Saints btw when Peyton was driving for the tying score?

and eli managed the game that last drive like a champ. i won't take that from him. i have no idea who sealed the 09' win for the saints. was it that DB who picked peyton off?

[Raven]

most of the black qb's are still young and coming into their own so its not surprising they're not the best on their teams. i don't think my question of who are the top 5 pocket passing qb's under 25, is asking for too much.

it is when you don't give a clear criteria of what you define as a pocket passing qb..

[Chief Brody]

and eli managed the game that last drive like a champ. i won't take that from him. i have no idea who sealed the 09' win for the saints. was it that DB who picked peyton off?

I love you bro, nh. To answer your question it was Tracy Porter with the Pick-6.

[Trill Clinton]

it is when you don't give a clear criteria of what you define as a pocket passing qb..

well use your own definition then.

[Trill Clinton]

I love you bro, nh. To answer your question it was Tracy Porter with the Pick-6.

[Raven]

well use your own definition then.

let's say that the pass:rush ratio should not be lower than 8:1, after that there should be a number of how many passes are thrown from the pocket and how many from outside, but i do not own these numbers. The first one is a basic criteria between monkeyballer and passer more than defining a slowass passer like the absolute elites.

[Trill Clinton]

let's say that the pass:rush ratio should not be lower than 8:1, after that there should be a number of how many passes are thrown from the pocket and how many from outside, but i do not own these numbers. The first one is a basic criteria between monkeyballer and passer more than defining a slowass passer like the absolute elites.

okay, so who's your top 5 under 25?

[Raven]

okay, so who's your top 5 under 25?

you do know that's pretty much rookies or sophos right? how can you pick 5 under 25 when that's almost 1/8 of the league and qbs are in their prime from 28 to 35 ? i can name five, more than choosing them as top whatever.

[Trill Clinton]

you do know that's pretty much rookies or sophos right? how can you pick 5 under 25 when that's almost 1/8 of the league and qbs are in their prime from 28 to 35 ? i can name five, more than choosing them as top whatever.

bruh....

[Pelicans78]

I believe Drew Brees should be #1 on that list.

He's 34.

[Pelicans78]

how was the giants D and run game in 2007? the giants teams have a history of being mediocre and limping into the playoffs and then doing the smart thing by making eli manage the games and rely on the D.

big ben is one of my fav qb's of all time but i still think brees was the last non game managing qb to win a superbowl.

Rodgers won in 2010 after Brees.

[Creepn]

He's 34.

Yeah you're right. Forgot about the thread le when I started reading through it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

So is Luck not a pocket passer in your book?

The mobile QB nuthuggers try to claim Luck and Aaron Rogers as non-traditional dual threat QBs.