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He'll stay in San Antonio. It is the Argentina of the North.
What will be next?
We can go back to the old Ginobili topics. Here are some examples (not necesarily in chronological order):
- Is Manu better than manure?
- Should Manu come off the bench?
- Manu or TP?
- Can Manu make the All Star game next year?
- Is Manu better than a hot dog?
- Should Manu's jersey be retired?
He'll stay in San Antonio. It is the Argentina of the North.
I think he will retire a Spur. If he ever wins a Finals MVP, which he probably will one day, his name will end up in the rafters.
..how can anybody be restless being sidekick to one of the NBA's best? Are you saying that there's a possiblity Manu might become another selfish player just because he had a successful Final game series?
He was a free agent a yr ago, he visited a lot of teams who are willing to pay big salaries for his services but he decided to stay in San Antonio. I wonder ...was his decision got something to do with the Big Fundamental? Could be.and he may want to make it out of TD's shadow if he improves more next year.
It must be: Best option is playing alongside Tim to win another ring. Tsskkk! Tsskk!
I think Manu IS the most popular International NBA player right now-MVP Olympics, Olympic Gold, NBA les-accomplished in just one yr, only 3rd NBA player besides MJ and Pippen to accomplished same fate but I'd rather be MORE concerned IF Duncan leave SA for another team than Manu.
to answer your question...NO. I don't think Manu will ever stay in S.A. until he retires. He'd go to another team but he will still not be the leader of the team. There's always be big men to do that.
Sign Yao to an extension, keep him out of LA, then talk smack about keping someone under a guaranteed contract, Rocketfan.
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- Manu
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- Not Yet
Manu definitely deserved to be on the allstar team this year. Is there anything he can't do? He is a great slasher, good shooter, best free throw shooter on the team and etc. I don't see him leaving San Antonio.
If Manu retired right now, his number would retire.
I'd love for Manu to stay a Spur for life. But the more notice he gets from other teams, the more offers will be sent his way and one of these days I see him going for the money. Long contracts don't seem to mean anything. With all the wheeling and dealing it seems anything is possible. After the Spurs win in 2006 I wouldn't be surprised to see Manu get stolen away to a bigger market. Having said that, I hope I'm dead wrong.
That's blasphemy. Really great players have always known that you can shine alone...but you can't win championships alone. David Robinson knew it. Tim Duncan knows it. Manu knows it. And, besides, as phenomenal a player as he is, Tim doesn't cast a very large shadow anyway. Manu is in the sun here. Why would he go into the storm?
What in the are you talking about??? Just cause I am a Rocket fan does not mean that I can pose a question in this forum. I wasn't talking smack, if you re-read it. I like Ginobili, I really enjoy watching him play (except for the many obvious flops, which he didn't do as much in the playoffs), I can just see him becoming this huge international star, and you know as well as I do that the league would love for him to be in a bigger market, but I don't know Ginobili so I can't say. I was getting your opinion, not talking smack.
he might leave when he is old and go to a smaller club
1) Will Manu ever change to
2) Will Manu dunk over Shak this season
3) Could manu be a Coach?
4) Who has the most beautiful nose ... Coyote or Manu?
5) When the Ginobilis will have a ginobilito?
"Stolen" away? That's not how the NBA works. A team can't just swoop in with a big contract and take him. Manu is under contract until 2010, and he cannot get out of the deal to go elsewhere. He'd have to be traded.
Now, Manu certainly could ask for a trade, and if he did, the Spurs would try to oblige that if he really were unhappy. But there is no evidence he is unhappy in SA. Ginobili's situation in Argentina is kind of bittersweet, because he seems to value his privacy, but gets mobbed everywhere he goes down there. At least during the year in the States, he can have a little privacy.
I understand that there are those in the NBA community who are concerned about the possibility of Spurs dominance over the next three to five years and what it might do to the domestic market for the league. Basically, ABC is going to lose its shirt. The NBA is not like the NFL, which could have Green Bay to the Super Bowl and not worry about it, because the NBA is not as woven into the overall cultural fabric of America, and is heavily reliant upon the inner-city black communities in large cities. The hip-hop community is not going to watch a bunch of foreign players in a city that's like 5% black. The casual fan isn't going to watch unless a glamour team is playing. A Spurs dynasty means America for the most part will tune out basketball on network TV.
But Stern's position appears to be that if he's not growing the game domestically by having the Lakers, Knicks, Celtics, or Bulls dominating, he can build it overseas with teams like the Spurs who rely on international players. Outside of the US, nobody really cares how big the city is in which Ginobili is playing or how much "street cred" it has.
WHO CARES about ABC? If ABC "loses its shirt" and somehow bows out of NBA coverage, there will be networks fighting each other in line to cover the NBA. I hope that happens really soon, because I cannot stand the announcers/commentators on ABC. What a bunch of whiny butts; they could do a lot for themselves AND the NBA if they would get some different personalities on there and come up with a new approach. What they have now sucks, and ABC doesn't seem to care. When you're the only game in town, they think they don't have to care what the fans (their audience, the ones who pay their bills on a day to day basis) think. When they start caring what the people down here in San Antonio, Texas think, I'll give them some more compassion. Until then, not so much.
I don't believe that's true. I believe the face of the following of professional basketball in general and the NBA in particular is changing, big time. It's time the NBA realizes that their only audience is NOT only "the inner-city black communities in large cities", but Bobby Joe and Betty Lou out in the sticks, too. If they want to keep diversity in their customer base, it's time they woke up and realized that they need to appeal not only to the hip-hop crowd, but the country and western and jazz and classical and salsa and zydeco and cajun crowds (not to mention the classic rockers like myself), too. It's time the NBA grew up; and I think they are trying to do that. But, it's up to us, as fans, to break the stereotypes, too, and that is exactly what you did in your message: stereotype the NBA fanbase. Get over that.
IMHO, Stern may be one of the few on the right track here. Who knows, maybe someday there will be a new conference in the NBA...an international one.
I hope not.
That is wrong on many levels...4) Who has the most beautiful nose ... Coyote or Manu?
I disagree. I believe the NBA will suffer a big drop in domestic TV revenues in the next collective bargaining agreement, unless ESPN overpays just to prevent a rival cable sports network from emerging.
Put on the same crappy production ABC did, and plug in the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, or Knicks, in place of either the Spurs or Pistons, and ratings are 40% higher, at least. It's the same thing in baseball -- unless the Cubs, Yankees, or Red Sox are in the World Series, ratings are in the toilet.
It's not like the Spurs are going to become popular just by winning a lot. The St. Louis Cardinals have won 9 championships, play in one of America's best baseball towns, have possibly the game's best player in Albert Pujols, but outside Missouri and southern Illinois, they have zero visibility.
This has been a catch-22 for the NBA since black players starting dominating rosters in the 1960's. If you figure out the solution, you'll become obscenely rich. The NBA has thrived when 1) big-market teams win championships, and 2) there are superstars appealing to white people, like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Michael Jordan. Bird was white, and Magic and Jordan had charisma and corporately-honed public images.I don't believe that's true. I believe the face of the following of professional basketball in general and the NBA in particular is changing, big time. It's time the NBA realizes that their only audience is NOT only "the inner-city black communities in large cities", but Bobby Joe and Betty Lou out in the sticks, too.
When those factors have been lacking, the NBA has swooned. When Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (anti-white bigot that he was) and Dr.J-with-the-afro were the big superstars, and the Portlands and Seattles of the league were winning les, the NBA almost collapsed. It's to Stern's credit somewhat that he's kept the league healthy while America waits for the Spurs to go away.
I'm not making stereotypes. I'm accurately stating the demographics of people who follow the NBA. I don't see people in the suburbs outside of hardcore little NBA towns like SA wearing NBA gear. I don't hear them talking about the games. The only teams they know are the Lakers and the Bulls.But, it's up to us, as fans, to break the stereotypes, too, and that is exactly what you did in your message: stereotype the NBA fanbase. Get over that.
The passionate fans are in the one-team markets like SA and Salt Lake, and in the inner cities of NY, Chicago, LA, etc. That's where they are. We can engage in wishful thinking that there's this huge groundswell of support just waiting to get heaped on the Spurs if the NBA just markets it right, but it's not there. Kids in the suburbs aren't playing basketball; even as much as baseball has fallen off, it's still tons more popular than basketball out there. Football and soccer are king.
There's nobody in the NBA right now that get kids dreaming. They dreamed of playing like Magic, like Bird, like Jordan. No kid outside of SA or the VI dreams of being Tim Duncan, great as he is. Kids don't dream of being Kobe any more. LeBron won't be their idol until he wins something. Ginobili is the villain who made the kids cry by beating America in the Olympics (if the kids even watched).
Overseas, kids in Latin America dream of being Ginobili. Kids in Asia dream of being Yao Ming. They make them want to go outside and play basketball. That's where the game is growing. That's where the passion is. That's where the league needs to focus. The passion isn't there in America, and the league can't manufacture it any more than they can catch lightning in a bottle. Someday, someone will capture America's attention and the league can ride that wave. Maybe that's LeBron. Maybe not. But they don't need to expend their resources so that fans in SA can feel wanted and respected by fellow Americans who don't care about SA and never will, even if the Spurs win eight les in a row.
You are stating an OPINION. And that's fine. I stated mine, too. But neither yours nor mine is law. I see "the demographics of people who follow the NBA" as rapidly changing. If they rely on directing their marketing strategies to the hip-hop crowd, they are ignoring (and probably losing) a huge new and growing market.
Like I said, it's ok to disagree. But, no one's OPINION is more worthy than anyone else's.
If the Spurs don't re-do Manu's contract he will leave SA next summer.
Why? Because winning the championship is not enough or we didn't win by enough points? You don't change the chemistry of a team that is WORKING, even for a "bigger" star. Those bigger stars come with egos and problems. If anyone watched the DVD what was harped on over and over was the unselfishness of the team.
Manu loves Timmy, you can tell. He talks about him a lot, praises him, and they are the first to celebrate together. They both have saved each other's butts in key games and Tim's lack of spotlight-hogging gives just enough for Manu's ego. If Manu wanted theand the #1 spot on a team he would have left last year. The Argentinian team was never trained to be "Is" so that carries over. And obviously the formula worked. These aren't stupid men.
I don't see Manu going anywhere just like David and Tim.
do you think he becomes a US citzen or goes back to his country
He can leave when his contract is up.
I heard he is headed to Portland
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