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    I think the defections from the AFL-CIO could be good for workers in the long run. I have always cast a wary eye at anything that get too big, government, business or labor.

    When unions came into being they were needed as capitalists (big business) were out and out abusing people like the Chinese do these days. Over time labor laws provided the protections that unions had to fight for.

    The country has gone from 35% of the workforce being unionized (1950) to only 8% today. For the short term, I believe the decline will continue but will reverse itself as more and more power shifts to the businesses.

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    So do you do installs/startups, and if so, do you have to scrounge around for union labor at each location? That sucks if you do.

    BTW, I can personally verify the union ironworker productivities quoted by 1369. They are some goofing off sons of es. Luckily, we had some ironworkers from Canada helping install our conveyor on our part of the ride and they worked nonstop and were happy to be paid in the US in US dollars (kept the sociallist gov. from taxing them to death).
    Depends on the size of the job. Some people get laid off rather quickly because they are ty workers, but that's at the discretion of our Field Sup't (who started with us as an apprentices, btw). For our service contact with Lockheed, we're just doing PMOS, witness testing, CEMIS, and repairs. They haven't bought a system in a long time.

    When we had our job in Alabama we had to hire their ironworkers and carpenters.

    We also did a job in Canada which lost money (underestimated, I think, and also because my dad just had six vessel bypass surgery at that time and really couldn't oversee it). That was the biggest pain in the ass trying to get the vendors to understand that we would be wiring payment into their accounts instead of sending them a check. They just didn't understand that. Anyway, we just sent our electrician for that job and didn't use any Canadian employees.

    What rides did you do? We did the Peter Pan ride at Disneyland. But that's the only one. My dad didn't want the liability.

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    See you when it burns SWC Bonfire's Avatar
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    We did a couple of rides for Six Flags, and we also haven't done one in a while for liability reasons.

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    You mean like hiring illegal workers and keeping them "part-time" so they don't have to pay benefits and make them work off the clock?
    many, many companies keep workers part time for that reason...are you as dumb as jekka?

    also, that was a contract company hiring the illegals..

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    a company needs to figure out how to be like wal-mart and say unions.. if they can't , then too bad, there will be a union...
    One of the Walmarts in Quebec went Union and Walmart closed the store.
    The Walton's don't play!

    Wal-Mart has announced the closure of its store in Jonquiere, Quebec. In itself, the closure of one store for one of the largest companies in the world is not a big deal.

    Wal-Mart claimed that the employees were making demands so unreasonable it led to them being forced to close the store. Keeping in mind that this is one of the largest corporations in the world, what kind of demands could be so unreasonable that it is no longer financially viable to remain open?
    A union.

    The store was the first to gain unionized status in a notoriously anti-union company. The closest any other store came was one in Jacksonville, Texas, where back in 2000 the store's meatpacking department's 11 employees joined forces. Wal-Mart responded by eliminating the job altogether, not only in that store but company-wide.

    The Jonquiere store was in negotiations to win the company's first unionized contract when Wal-Mart announced its decision.

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    I don't kow about unions in this country, but in my country, the workers' representatives are a bunch of crooks.

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    The old American Worker is dead.

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    The Teamsters and UPS could be heading toward the nation's largest strike in decades.

    On Tuesday, the union announced that members voted more than 90% in favor of going on strike, if a deal is not reached before the current labor contract expires on August 1.

    UPS employs 260,000 Teamsters, and has added 40,000 union members since its current contract was reached five years ago. The shipments UPS transports equal an estimated 6% of the nation's GDP, which means a labor dispute could disrupt the US economy.
    http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/05/news...ons/index.html

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    At issue is how the shipping giant will expand to offer deliveries seven days a week.
    UPS (UPS) began offering regular Saturday deliveryservice just a year ago. It hasn't officially announced plans for Sunday service, but the union says the company has made several proposals to expand weekend deliveries.
    One proposal on the negotiating table is to create a two-tier wage system that would take part-time workers who earn $15 an hour and make them full-time at the same wage.

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    The old American Worker is dead.
    Killed, and buried, by the oligarchy, not by accident nor natural death

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    Amid one of the tightest freight markets in years, and with peak shipping season on the horizon, the prospect of a strike at one of the nation’s largest parcel carriers could wreak havoc on supply chains and e-commerce fulfillment operations across the country.
    http://createsend.com/t/d-A93AD09308...40EF23F30FEDED

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