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    Mahinmi in ? picnroll's Avatar
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    Suns should never have signed Q. Should have signed Johnson and a decent big.

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    The Hawks are now my second favorite team.

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    this is good for us, but sons still have their two best players

    but if you look at nets
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    but nets have vince carter, I am going to predict nets have a better record then suns

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    spurs got lucky with manu he would have gotten a max offer from suns had they not gotten his deal done

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    The Suns may have their two top stars but JJ opened up the floor by making those threes.

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    I read that and thought back on Holt's initial unwillingness to budge on that deal with Parker last summer. Given the new CBA and the existing market, those who convinced Holt to accede to Parker's demand probably saved the Spurs from facing a similar decision (though without the looming specter of extending a guy in the Stoudemire range).

    I remain convinced that the Spurs were extremely fortunate last off-season, and that their good fortune will pay off for a long, long time to come.
    Manu took less money; Parker took less; Bowen renegotiated. , where can you find multi-millionaire players willing to do that? ESPN The Mag is right -- what's there NOT to like about this team.

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    Like timvp said Suns are between a rock and a hard place. In many ways I'd rather see Johnson sign with the Suns if it meant Amare didn't end up with those damn Lakers.
    Reasons Amare aint going nowhere.

    Let's not forget, on last summer Amare traveled to Dallas in order to lure Nash to sign with the Suns. He was able to successfully convince Nash the Suns would be a perennial championship contenders, if he signed on.

    If Amare bolted to the Fakers, then he'd be a traitor (at least in Nash's eyes). I say no way he's going anywhere. Besides, where else will he find a PG that is willing to distribute the ball to him every trip down court?

    Any another thing, why would he want to play alongside that Kobe Bryant's selfish ass?

    Still another thing - Money. The Suns will be able to pay him more than anyone.

    That brings us back to JJ. Knowing Amare is a higher priority, the funky chicken (Suns owner Robert Sarver) may "bite the bullet" and let JJ walk. Thus saving hiim precious cap space and perhaps signing a suitable ( or less than suitable ) replacment - like Finley.

    Bottom line, JJ's eminent departure will have nothing to do with Amare staying on. I do agree if they match JJ's offer, then Marion could be gone.

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    Manu took less money; Parker took less; Bowen renegotiated. , where can you find multi-millionaire players willing to do that? ESPN The Mag is right -- what's there NOT to like about this team.
    Taking care of its business was an important part of what the Spurs did last summer. But I think the point I was trying to make was this: Sarver and Johnson were $5 million apart on an extension last summer. Holt and Parker were $2 million apart. Sarver wouldn't budge and now he's faced with matching a max-type deal for a player who isn't the most important guy on his roster. Holt finally gave in to Parker and the Spurs got him locked up without having to deal with free agency. Pony up to a reasonable deal and you can save yourself the headache of deciding between letting a key player go and mortgaging the future of your franchise.

    Is there really any doubt, in this free agent market, that Tony Parker would have gotten an offer from someone that was at least simlar to the deals that have been offered to Hughes and Johnson?

    Holt paid a price that he wasn't completely comfortable with, but it saved the Spurs money and ensured that the franchise will compete for les for the foreseeable future without mortgaging its future to do so.

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    If Amare bolted to the Fakers, then he'd be a traitor (at least in Nash's eyes). I say no way he's going anywhere. Besides, where else will he find a PG that is willing to distribute the ball to him every trip down court?
    He wouldn't be the NBA's first traitor.

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    Nash and Marion are great now but Johnson and Stoudemire are the future of the Suns IMO.

    The Suns said they would match and I still think they will until they prove otherwise. If it was Jerry Colangelo making the final decision it wouldn't even be a question. Nobody really seems sure what Sarver will do. If they do match they will have some tough decisions next summer but it doesn't kill them for this coming season.

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    timvp is right. If they match, they're financially strangled when they have to match for Amare. If they don't, they have to replace 403 3 pointers, as follows.

    Joe Johnson 177-370 3GM @ .478
    QRich 226-631 3GM @ .368

    That's a load of 3 pointers, and Amare's breathing room in the paint.

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